#119954 - 01/14/08 12:15 AM
Helping stranded motorists
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Sherpadog
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I was reading a news story where a man stopped to help a car with it's hazard lights on and ended up getting a beating instead. I have stopped many times to help stranded motorists and to date have had no problems. I will drive past the car first and circle back for another look then judge if it is safe enough to offer help. I always have a pad and pen in the car and I write down the stranded car make/model, color and plate number then put this paper in my sock before getting out of the car to offer. The idea of putting this info in my sock is in case I get beaten, robbed, car-jacked etc. Chances are slim the perpetrators will make me remove my socks and hopefully this hidden info will allow the police to catch the pinheads. How do you deal with stranded motorists and what precautions do you take?
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#119963 - 01/14/08 01:08 AM
Re: Helping stranded motorists
[Re: Taurus]
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I hate to sound heartless, but most of the time I never stop or ask if they need help. I usually just call the police and report the disabled vehicle, its information, and that of the occupants. There's just WAY too many idiots that live in my area, and I don't want to take any crazy risks...
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#119980 - 01/14/08 03:08 AM
Re: Helping stranded motorists
[Re: DrmstrSpoodle]
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Registered: 09/30/01
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I spent a lifetime (or 30+ years) helping stranded motorists as a part of my job (in addition to a lot of other stuff). Enough of them turned out to be stolen vehicles, wanted felons, etc, etc, etc, that I no longer do it. I will call in a vehicle description, location, etc, but will not stop. Call me heartless, or call me smart, call me a survivor...
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#119982 - 01/14/08 03:15 AM
Re: Helping stranded motorists
[Re: DrmstrSpoodle]
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Journeyman
Registered: 02/16/06
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My dad told me a story about how one day he passed by a car with it's hood up and a women trying to flag him down. He turned around and was slowing down to help when he looked over and saw a guy that was trying to hide in the bushes by the car he decided to haul butt outta there. He found a patrol car and told them what was up and where the women and the man was. What I took away from this little story is it's better to just report the stranded person cause you never know who you may be trying to help. Oh and something I learned many times since then is good deeds rarely go unpunished so be very careful out there.
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#120017 - 01/14/08 11:58 AM
Re: Helping stranded motorists
[Re: Paul810]
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i'd go one up on that, and say I'd want at least two ARMED people with me.
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#120036 - 01/14/08 03:34 PM
Re: Helping stranded motorists
[Re: HerbG]
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Registered: 01/06/08
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Loc: Canada
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I think it's situation and locations dependent. In many locations that I travel in (what most people call Northern Canada, but is really Central Canada) it would be considered ignorant not to stop and ask if you he/she/they need some help. This is especially true beyond the range of cell phones. But is is a difference between an urban and a rural mentality. There is still a world out there in which people will slow down and wave or just stop and say hello when they are passing another vehicle on a narrow gravel road. Its a way of life not yet forgotten, but often overshadowed by news reports of violence, TV program's, and looking to long at certain select areas of North America where their is a car jacking problem. It is correct that I would not stop to help someone on a south Florida highway or in East LA.
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#120073 - 01/14/08 06:28 PM
Re: Helping stranded motorists
[Re: DrmstrSpoodle]
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Gear Junkie
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Registered: 08/23/07
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Loc: MA
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I hate to sound heartless, but most of the time I never stop or ask if they need help. I usually just call the police and report the disabled vehicle, its information, and that of the occupants. There's just WAY too many idiots that live in my area, and I don't want to take any crazy risks... Second that.
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#120080 - 01/14/08 06:56 PM
Re: Helping stranded motorists
[Re: DrmstrSpoodle]
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I hate to sound heartless, but most of the time I never stop or ask if they need help. I usually just call the police and report the disabled vehicle, its information, and that of the occupants. There's just WAY too many idiots that live in my area, and I don't want to take any crazy risks... Same here! I'll call it in, but not expose myself. If another is with me, and we are both armed, depending on the situation, but calling it in is safer.
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#120152 - 01/15/08 12:27 AM
Re: Helping stranded motorists
[Re: Stu]
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Registered: 01/21/04
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Loc: W. WA
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When I hear things like this, it brings home how much things have changed. I've traveled over quite a lot of the U.S., from CA to ME, and if I had trouble, or was even stopped to let the dog out, someone would at least slow down and yell, "Are you okay?"
I read a book called Australian Adventure by an American naturalist who drove around Australia with her two teenaged daughters in the 1970s (before the Stuart Hwy was paved). In the outback, it was considered bad form to pass anyone who was stopped by the side of the road without checking on them. Everyone considered it their duty to watch out for each other.
The woman would see a vehicle under a tree or beside a tank, and they would stop and yell (in their newly-acquired Aussie accents), "Are you roight?" And the guys would wave and yell back, "Yeah, we're roight! Ta!"
It's a pity that we've reached a point in our 'civilized' society where almost all our decisions regarding other people are based on fear.
Sue
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#120418 - 01/16/08 06:32 PM
Re: Helping stranded motorists
[Re: Taurus]
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Registered: 12/10/07
Posts: 844
Loc: NYC
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I have been almost all over this globe and have seen the uncaring attitude people have for each other in other countries. I still am shocked when it happens here. Is this what it is all coming to I wonder? Its pretty sad. Kudos to you Taurus. Is the World coming to this? Too often, but that does not me when cannot fight it. We can and should fight it, and you just did.
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#120427 - 01/16/08 07:37 PM
Re: Helping stranded motorists
[Re: HerbG]
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Loc: Pacific North West
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Generally, I think the need to stop has been negated by the availability of cell phones. I don't know many people who don't carry one when they travel, but I am sure there are exceptions. I normally don't stop for people in cities or on heavily traveled roads. I figure in areas like that there are plenty of LEOs, cell phones, roadside assistance, etc which are all much better equipped to help out than I would be. Of coarse this excludes the situation where I see the incident happen and am the first on the scene. However, I also spend a fair amount of time on less traveled back roads where there is no cell coverage, and have winched a fair number of vehicles out of ditches. I figure I'll at least check things out because who knows when the next car will go by? I normally approach the scene slowly, flip on my light rack, roll down my windows and ask if the stranded vehicle needs assistance.
Edited by Rio (01/16/08 07:39 PM)
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#120448 - 01/16/08 11:25 PM
Re: Helping stranded motorists
[Re: Rio]
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
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I have been helped many times in my various travels, and I will help others out in the sticks. But I look the situation over very, very carefully. And when I need help, I keep my attention focused. I also tend to travel with largish wolfish-looking, dark-faced dogs, which may be an edge.
The two Scottish ladies (retired schoolteachers) who had a flat tire between Baker, CA and Las Vegas, NV, were a real hoot. They had forgotten to put a rock under the wheel and their jack got wedged under the car when it rolled. Being the Queen of Flat Tires that I am, I got it changed before my flare burned out. They said they had waited for two hours before they tried doing it themselves. Being visitors to the country, they didn't know what to do. (This was in the pre-cell days.)
I've only picked up hitchhikers twice. The woman turned out to be someone that I knew by phone, but had never met in person. What are the chances of that? The other one was a sick 14-yr-old boy I met in a campground in Wenatchee, WA, and spent the entire trip over the Cascades to Everett vomiting in a large cottage cheese container.
I tend to assume that men should be able to take care of themselves, and don't stop. The single exception was when a car had slid just a couple of feet off an icy road, and he needed to be dragged back just a little bit. A SP officer was slowing people, and was asking if anyone had a tow strap, which I did. I would think the SP would have one, but....?
I know many people refuse to stop under any circumstances. But if something happens and they need help, they expect someone to help them. It's hard for me to think like that.
Sue
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#120493 - 01/17/08 03:55 AM
Re: Helping stranded motorists
[Re: OldBaldGuy]
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Registered: 02/24/07
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Yep, I do regular ride-alongs and am amazed at how careful the Highway Patrol is for requiring the presence of another officer for fairly mundane tasks. If one of their own troopers has a flat, another MUST come to assist, can't have a single officer in a crouched over position concentrating on putting a spare on...something about checking his sixes :-)
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#120534 - 01/17/08 03:14 PM
Re: Helping stranded motorists
[Re: red]
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Stranger
Registered: 01/15/08
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For me, I always follow the rule no good deed goes unpunished. When I was coming home from ROTC in college, I had my uniform on and it was snowy. There was a lady stuck in snow along the side of the road. I decided to stop and push her car out, hoping she would see an Army guy and not think I was insane.
I managed to get her car out and then went back to mine, only to find I was stuck! I eventually got out after about 5 solid minutes of trying. I had no survival bag or any warmer clothes than my ROTC stuff (basic BDUs). I was stupid, I know!
Today, I will not stop to help people. There is a caveat to it, though. If I feel that a woman (especially) or man is being threatened by another human, I feel it is my right and duty as a human to assist. I would want someone to do it for my daughter and wife, so I feel if I am ever faced with this, I would help. Bottom line, though, is it is better to dial 911 and let the pros do their work.
With the broken down car along the side of the road, you never know what you are getting into.
Good luck!
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#120611 - 01/17/08 11:43 PM
Re: Helping stranded motorists
[Re: Dan_McI]
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Registered: 08/22/01
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Loc: St. John's, Newfoundland
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(30) A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead. (31) And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. (32) And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side. (33) But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him, (34) And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.
2000 years ago, Jesus was telling the same story. It isn't anything new, nor is it peculiar to this particular time and continent.
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