Much apprecaieted-i've stashed the stick so when i go in today i will be able give more details- the stick is approximatley 4foot long when it is finshed,

i will bore a hole in the bottom about 1 inch deep and bung that with liquid rubber.

I hope to do the usual thing with paarcord around the handle, maybe a bin liner underneath it,like the ranger rick one!

I have a vast range of tools, my brother works for Drapper-a leading DIY tools sales company over here, tools are then ALSO readily available from a Woodland Park i volunteer for on a sunday-the tools here are more woodland based bodging tools, i also have access to machinery at my dads workshop at home.

I intend to do mbasic carving on th stick also down to a 2-3mm depth!

I will be treating the stick initially with linseead oil, then with a polyurethane.

Other dimensions will come in the next 24 hours!!!!

hope this helps

Mark