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#118783 - 01/04/08 02:07 AM Re: 10 year old arrested for steak knife at schoo [Re: UTAlumnus]
OldBaldGuy Offline
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"...It worked for several thousand years..."

Unfortunately, this is a new world. And the current "laws" on the books say no knives at school. I don't necessarily agree with it (I carried knives to school in my day), but you gotta do what the rules say...
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#118790 - 01/04/08 03:57 AM Re: 10 year old arrested for steak knife at schoo [Re: OldBaldGuy]
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I prefer to play by the rules until caught. My grandfather told me quite a few times "It is sometimes easier to get forgiveness than permission" I carried a knife to school once when very young (2nd grade) and it was taken away from me and given back to my parents. I was not allowed to carry and use a knife for a long while after that.

In high school I carried a Leatherman everyday, until the principal found out about it and he and i had a conference in his office. I was told not to bring it back to school and therefore no one knew when i started carrying it again or about the small pocketknife I carried. If you don't advertise then no one will know.

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#118794 - 01/04/08 04:31 AM Re: 10 year old arrested for steak knife at schoo [Re: OldBaldGuy]
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We've got to do what the rules say, but we don't have to sit by and let the rules stand. If enough people tell our school boards and legislators these rules or laws are crock enough times maybe we can start carrying knives to school again. I feel better giving students can responsibly of carrying a pocket knife then putting off adulthood until no-one acts like a responsible adult. I fear that we're almost at that point to day though.
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#118801 - 01/04/08 01:55 PM Re: 10 year old arrested for steak knife at schoo [Re: AROTC]
Dan_McI Offline
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Originally Posted By: AROTC
We've got to do what the rules say, but we don't have to sit by and let the rules stand. If enough people tell our school boards and legislators these rules or laws are crock enough times maybe we can start carrying knives to school again. I feel better giving students can responsibly of carrying a pocket knife then putting off adulthood until no-one acts like a responsible adult. I fear that we're almost at that point to day though.


Rules were made to be broken.

I see three choices: follow the rules; or try to get away with breaking them and risk enduring punishment.

As far as chaning those rules, you will be shoveling manure against the proverbial tide. The tides come in and flooded everything here in New York. No way could you get such a rule passed. Of course, this is also a place where you will get looks as if you have three heads if anyone found out you were an NRA member. A campaign would be few screaming against millions. Still, someone needs to be screaming.

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#118819 - 01/04/08 03:22 PM Re: 10 year old arrested for steak knife at schoo [Re: Dan_McI]
benjammin Offline
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Litigation imbalances rational thought. Even if the majority of the community wanted to make it okay for kids to bring knives to school, the legal system now would compel the administration to keep the rule banning them.

Again, it has nothing to do with practicality. It is a perceived risk issue now, and once defined, is seldom ever mooted. You'd have to just about go through tort refom before you could change such rules.
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#118860 - 01/04/08 08:19 PM Re: 10 year old arrested for steak knife at school [Re: probablylost]
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CHARGES DROPPED

STORY HERE

What took so long for sanity to set in?

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#118888 - 01/04/08 11:37 PM Re: 10 year old arrested for steak knife at school [Re: JimJr]
Stretch Offline
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Loc: Alamogordo, NM
Why were the police called in the first place? Sanity isn;t the issue.... it's fear and common sense. These people should be maxed out at running a pop stand.
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#118892 - 01/05/08 12:13 AM Re: 10 year old arrested for steak knife at school [Re: Stretch]
OldBaldGuy Offline
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In CA, at least in Fresno, crime capital of the world, Fresno PD has an officer assigned to many of the high school EVERY day, and they get involved in anything that goes on during a school day...
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#118929 - 01/05/08 04:57 AM Re: 10 year old arrested for steak knife at school [Re: OldBaldGuy]
Stretch Offline
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Registered: 11/27/06
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The little town of Las Cruces, NM has the same thing....officers at every high school. That's their job....every day.
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#118979 - 01/05/08 10:30 PM Re: 10 year old arrested for steak knife at school [Re: Stretch]
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We do not have police "assigned" at our High School daily, but have unarmed school security, mostly retired police officers.
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