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#117400 - 12/24/07 03:48 PM Cougar vs bear
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#117403 - 12/24/07 04:35 PM Re: Cougar vs bear [Re: CityBoyGoneCountry]
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I've noticed over the years that a mother ANYTHING defending her baby/babies is better left alone.
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#117419 - 12/24/07 11:18 PM Re: Cougar vs bear [Re: CityBoyGoneCountry]
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The bear didn't put up much of a fight, if it had, I suspect that the outcome might have been different. What I really want to know is where the camera operator was standing!!!
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#117425 - 12/25/07 03:00 AM Re: Cougar vs bear [Re: OldBaldGuy]
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"What I really want to know is where the camera operator was standing!!!"

It was a tad grainy, so I would say he was using a long lens for that. MomCat wasn't in a good mood, and if the cameraman was closer (or upwind), she probably would have beaten the snot out of HIM, too.

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#117428 - 12/25/07 03:09 AM Re: Cougar vs bear [Re: OldBaldGuy]
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Originally Posted By: OldBaldGuy
The bear didn't put up much of a fight


I agree. He seemed timid. Although I'd bet that bite to the face kinda changed his mind about how easy it was going to be.

Here's some redemption for bears: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg5eOuIlZRQ&NR=1

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#117445 - 12/25/07 03:19 PM Re: Cougar vs bear [Re: CityBoyGoneCountry]
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"...some redemption for bears..."

Not much. Again, not much aggression on the part of the bear. I kept waiting for a swipe of the paws, etc...
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#117489 - 12/25/07 10:53 PM Re: Cougar vs bear [Re: OldBaldGuy]
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"Again, not much aggression on the part of the bear."

That's a cub fighting the wolves. He must have lost his mom and was really hungry to take on a pack of wolves. I guess in the end they didn't think he was all that much of a threat. Had it been cubby's dad, it would have been a different story.

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#117554 - 12/26/07 01:19 PM Re: Cougar vs bear [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: IzzyJG99
"Does it have any weapons?"
"No."


Bears have weapons - teeth, claws, and strength. If you don't think those are good enough weapons, then by all means, go pick a fight with a bear.

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#117608 - 12/26/07 08:14 PM Re: Cougar vs bear [Re: CityBoyGoneCountry]
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A cougar has somewhat the same weapons, but I guess the strength of a bear is much greater. But.. the cougar probably moves faster.

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#117611 - 12/26/07 08:42 PM Re: Cougar vs bear [Re: Xterior]
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Pound for pound I think the Cougar has a distinct strength advantage, and his tools are more refined and efficient for inflicting damage as he is a specialized predator. I would not bet on the average sized black bear to beat the average sized cougar in a fight where the motivations are equal. Of course, if I had to voluntarily join the fray, it would not be without my Super Redhawk and those 300 grain jacketed flat top compressed loads.
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#117664 - 12/27/07 12:42 PM Re: Cougar vs bear [Re: ]
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Naw, I got the pun there, just adding my other two cents...

Missed the SG-1 reference. I just got the whole series on DVD, special collector's edition (212 1 hour episodes plus a whole lotta extra footage stuff), I figure that will keep me busy through the better part of the year, given the limited amount of free time left in my schedule. I also heard they are coming out with a couple big screen movies based on the series (smells like TNG to me).

I never thought SG-1 would go the distance when it first came out. I figured maybe 3 or 4 years tops, with waning interest, but it was astonishing the number of people who got into it and were sad to see it end.

Okay, MacGyver it ain't, but there was certainly more than a hint of ETS in the way it was written.
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#117799 - 12/28/07 01:38 PM Re: Cougar vs bear [Re: benjammin]
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I don't think a cougar is any match for most bears of any size. If the bear didn't take out the cougar, he wasn't worried about it. A male African lion on the other hand is a different story. Just my opinion.


Edited by jshannon (12/28/07 01:38 PM)

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#117802 - 12/28/07 01:43 PM Re: Cougar vs bear [Re: jshannon]
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Hmm, could be. My experience is likened to that of watching our lab interface with the neighbor's cat. Dogs are touch, but that cat has held his own, and more than once I've heard the typical cat squall followed by a series of yelps.

One thing for sure, neither bear nor cougar would stand up to a wolverine attack for long.
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