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#117218 - 12/23/07 01:28 AM Re: Outdoorlife article: Survival Equipment, Car list [Re: Frankie]
OldBaldGuy Offline
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We like the tent option. Sometimes you might want to stay in the vehicle, others you might want to move out of the vehicle and into the tent. Of course, along with the tent we carry insulated pads and mummy bags...
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#117229 - 12/23/07 03:44 AM Re: Outdoorlife article: Survival Equipment, Car l [Re: Frankie]
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Sheltering in place usually doesn't involve the car kit, and cleaning dishes in winter is easy- snow works well. Just make sure it isn't the color of any car fluids, grey-brown, or yellow. :P
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#117270 - 12/23/07 03:28 PM Re: Outdoorlife article: Survival Equipment, Car l [Re: ironraven]
Frankie Offline
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Indeed. The paper plates and plastic ustensils idea is more for a home kit where you have plenty of room and an emergency food pantry and want to save water. It looks like they copy-pasted a home kit and modified it for car in a hurry.

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#117416 - 12/24/07 10:39 PM Re: Outdoorlife article: Survival Equipment, Car l [Re: Frankie]
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A car is a heat sink at night and a solar collector by day, IF you were in the open and managed to point it toward the south.

I don't know if a tent would be any better, but the lack of metal might give it a slight edge.

Some of their suggestions seem to indicate that the person who wrote it did a little light skimming of survival, and called it good.

Of course, maybe the p-38 was to cut the raccoon's throat and gut it, and the razor was to shave off all the hair before cooking (singeing would be faster). But you would still need a SUBSTANTIAL FAK after wrestling with a raccoon.

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#117431 - 12/25/07 06:50 AM Re: Outdoorlife article: Survival Equipment, Car l [Re: Susan]
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With the inclusion of the the paper plates, toiletries and the like it looks more like he cribbed heavely from the Red Cross 72 hr. home kit. Then tossed in a couple of things for a vehicle.

Defenately not that impressed.
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#117438 - 12/25/07 01:53 PM Re: Outdoorlife article: Survival Equipment, Car l [Re: Susan]
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It's like, would you hike in temperature below freezing with work boots that have steel toes and plates? Your feet would freeze quickly due to conduction.

The problem with tent, sleeping bag and pads is that you can't put them in the trunk as they could get stuck in an accident and the sleeping bag will become too cold.

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#117443 - 12/25/07 03:07 PM Re: Outdoorlife article: Survival Equipment, Car l [Re: Frankie]
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"...temperature below freezing with work boots that have steel toes..."

I have stood in snow for eight hours or more (standing, not moving much, which is colder) wearing my Matterhorn boots (insulated) with steel toes. Didn't seem to make a bit of difference, my feet stayed pretty warm and toasty...
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#117564 - 12/26/07 02:41 PM Re: Outdoorlife article: Survival Equipment, Car l [Re: OldBaldGuy]
Frankie Offline
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Your foot mileage may vary.

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