well i missed the post asking me for a reply but max did a better job of explaining the technique than i could possibly have under the circumstances, it's a saturday night here too and i'm on my third lighter!! it is a hell of a lot simpler than it sounds tho, a good grip is all you really need to make it work and with practice it's just sa quick as a regular bottle opener, i'm off to try the technique some more!!

take it easy.
stuart