>> they'll use some other part of the mechanism... <<
They discovered that the least skilled indivuals would use the clip. They usualy damaged the clip. Of course that caused "inexplicable" jams when firing the rifle.

My mother-in-law broke two corkscrews on one bottle of wine trying to extract the cork. At that point she decided that there must be something seriously wrong with the wine and tossed the bottle!

i like her style!


Mark

Hmm. I assume you really mean the "magazine". I haven't tried it, but I can't imagine the mag lips being strong enough to lift the bottle cap, damage or no. Maybe.... there's noting else on a mag that might grip it...

Some years ago I got a Swiss Champ knock-off at a gun show for $4. After carrying it in my pocket for a week, I tried to use the corkscrew on a bottle of wine. You can imagine my surprise when the corkscrew came out almost straight, and the cork stayed in the bottle. Say no to crappy tools ;-) .

Guillermo Pico-Munoz

I think "magazine" would be a proper term. The lips can be used for lifting a bottle cap, provided one is stupid enough to try. It´s just a question of technique. Believe it or not, if you know how to do it, even AOL-CDs can be used for lifting a bottle cap.
I will not describe the technique as it shouldn´t be done anyway. In the case of the CD it might cause injuries, if not done properly.

on the subject of getting into beer in an emergency, i've always found that the cheap disposable butane lighters work perfectly, and trust me when i say that i've needed to get into a beer in an emergency <img src="images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

take it easy.
stuart

Ok, so I'm dense... it's Saturday night, and (apropo of the subject at hand) I've had... er... a few glasses of wine... but someone's going to have to explain that technique to me.

>> on the subject of getting into beer in an emergency, i've always found that the cheap disposable butane lighters work perfectly, and trust me when i say that i've needed to get into a beer in an emergency<<

This is the technique:
Make sure the bottle doesn´t have a screw cap <img src="images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />.
Hold the lighter in your right hand. The bottom should stick out between thumb and index finger. Grab the bottle neck with your left hand. The lighter should fit tightly between the left index finger and the cap. Put the lighter in a slight upward angle between the index finger and the cap. The upper edge MUST have good contact to the cap. Now tighten your grip on the bottle and rotate the lighter downward (it is used as a lever). The cap should pop off. It sounds more complicated than it is.
Note:
For your first attempts you should take an almost empty lighter as it´s quite easy to break into the gas tank.

well i missed the post asking me for a reply but max did a better job of explaining the technique than i could possibly have under the circumstances, it's a saturday night here too and i'm on my third lighter!! it is a hell of a lot simpler than it sounds tho, a good grip is all you really need to make it work and with practice it's just sa quick as a regular bottle opener, i'm off to try the technique some more!!

take it easy.
stuart