#115963 - 12/15/07 01:56 AM
My Vehicle FAK- PIC warning
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 03/08/07
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Afte reading the Accident Trauma Kit post, I finally got around to getting my vehicle FAK up. Mind you, I've been an EMT for 10 years, so please use common sense if you decide there's things "you just have to have!" Also, in advance, I have a few blankets and flares in my car, seperate from this kit. The bag was bought at an EMS conference about 10 years ago. It's a small duffel, with 2 side pouches. The ends are "pouches" that are seperated from a central compartment. The kit also came with a nylon roll with elastic loops for holding gauze rolls, as well as a flat piece that velcro's to the top of the central compartment for holding airways. Made of a nice-quality Cordura-type orange nylon. From the top, working clockwise: CPR pouch, the bigger CPR end compartment, glove pouch, and the trauma end compartment. The middle compartment is overflow/extra stuff.  The CPR pouch has a pocket CPR mask, 1 locking Buck knife, 1 pair of trauma shears, and 1 10-cc syring. I used to have a turkey baster as a poor-man's suction device, but it got lost somewhere.  The bigger airway pouch has an Ambu-bag, 10 triage tags, 1 pair goggles, and a handful of Vioxx hand sanitizer wipes.  Glove pouch contains 1 ziplock of latex gloves, and 1 ziplock of trauma gloves (thicker, longer latex gloves). No pic.  The trauma pouch has 2 abd pads, 2 vaseline gauze pads, 1 triangle bandage, 1 pair of goggles, 1/2 roll of tape, 3 Kerlix (gauze rolls), 2 surplus/military trauma bandages and a ziploc of 4x4's  The center pouch is a "restock" and "extra supplies" function. From the top right, the orange roll: Orange nylon roll with 6 guaze rolls 1 pediatric and 1 adult adjustable Cervical collar 2 burn towels 3 military trauma bandages 7 abd pads 1 set of oropharyngeal airways (the green curvy things) 3 angiocaths (the IV was used and never replaced) 2 triangle bandages 1 eye pad 2 ace wraps Ziploc of 4x4's, some sterile gauze Cheapie bandage compress and wire splint 2 rolls tape 1 sterile Kerlix 1 stethoscope (no BP cuff planned)
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#115997 - 12/15/07 06:07 AM
Re: My Vehicle FAK- PIC warning
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#116000 - 12/15/07 09:55 AM
Re: My Vehicle FAK- PIC warning
[Re: MDinana]
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Pretty nice kit. I have something similair. I will post pics of it when I find them.
- Have you thought about adding a suction-device, such as a rescue-vac?
- Maybe get a selectable c-collar?
- That BVM doesn't have much additional value without hooking it up to a o2-supply.
- Why no BP-cuff planned?
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#116001 - 12/15/07 10:54 AM
Re: My Vehicle FAK- PIC warning
[Re: JIM]
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I hope this isn't a tread-hijack, but this is my trauma-backpack:  The front-pouch contents. Not pictured, but included is a roll of duct-tape, more gloves, spac-blankets and 2 complete 500ml IV-kits. Some small stuff. There are 2 EMT-sheers in the bag. - Yellow pouch: a lot of quick-dressings (no1,2,3,4) and burn-gauze - Red pouch: trauma-pads, kerlix, gauze,more gauze... - Blue pouch: ACE-bandages, triangulair bandages, instant-cold-packs Tape, gauze pads, suture-strips, etc, etc More and larger gauze-pads, burnshield, water-jel, more tape, cling-film.
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#116015 - 12/15/07 03:03 PM
Re: My Vehicle FAK- PIC warning
[Re: JIM]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 03/08/07
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Pretty nice kit. I have something similair. I will post pics of it when I find them.
- Have you thought about adding a suction-device, such as a rescue-vac?
- Maybe get a selectable c-collar?
- That BVM doesn't have much additional value without hooking it up to a o2-supply.
- Why no BP-cuff planned?
You've got a great kit too Jim. Some things I'd like to have. As for you questions: Suction devices are pricey. I used a turkey baster in the past, and might get one again. The Rescue Vac retails for something like $100, and doesn't actually fit into a mouth too well. But it is a shortcoming. The 2 C-collars are adjustable. Sectionable's aren't used too much in the field (in my experience) in the US. Mainly hospitals. Plus, they don't fold or store as well. A BVM adds 5% more O2 than a face mask when in use (21% atmospheric oxygen, vs about 15% in an exhaled breath). Plus, it keeps your head away from the patient while in use. The last time I used one on the side of the road, the girl's head was smashed and blood was spraying everywhere with each breath. I'd rather my jeans be soaked than my face and hair. The nice thing too is I can hook it up to an O2 tank when one becomes available (cops sometimes carry them, and tend to be quicker than EMS at times) No cuff simply because I'm not cared about documenting vitals. If they're talking and have a radial pulse, their BP is at least 70-80 mm Hg. This kit is to keep alive, not titrate IV fluid rates. Besides, without an IV, I can't do much to improve a dropping BP besides more hemorrhage control. Lastly, blood pressures aren't part of the triage algorithm, and if there's more than 1 patient, I can't waste time getting full vitals on each one.
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#116055 - 12/15/07 08:28 PM
Re: My Vehicle FAK- PIC warning
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There is a whole whack of stuff that you both carry that I am not even slightly trained to use, but after looking at your stuff I can see that there are a few more things I may have to squeeze into my trauma kit somehow. That's the most important thing: You see the kits of other people and get ideas of what you could/should add or what you could leave out. And your trauma-bag is really nice. It does what you want it to do and you're comfortable with it. Nothing more and nothing less! Once again, good job!
Edited by JIM (12/15/07 08:42 PM) Edit Reason: a FAK isn't a trauma-bag, duh..
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#116109 - 12/16/07 04:15 AM
Re: My Vehicle FAK- PIC warning
[Re: JIM]
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Nice kit !!
I'll take some pics of the everyday 1st aid kit I have and post them up here soon.
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#116147 - 12/16/07 05:20 PM
Re: My Vehicle FAK- PIC warning
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Great kits!
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#154777 - 11/10/08 02:26 PM
Re: My Vehicle FAK- PIC warning
[Re: Nicodemus]
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Hi! Here's my trauma backpack:   backpack closed   backpack opened  immobilization stuff   dressings  airway stuff  diagnostics& iv's  small stuff
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#154863 - 11/11/08 02:09 AM
Re: My Vehicle FAK- PIC warning
[Re: wxp]
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Welcome to the forum. Pull up a stump & stay a while.
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#154877 - 11/11/08 04:05 AM
Re: My Vehicle FAK- PIC warning
[Re: UTAlumnus]
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Can I just follow you guys around until I get hurt?
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#154883 - 11/11/08 05:27 AM
Re: My Vehicle FAK- PIC warning
[Re: MDinana]
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MDinina Take a look at the Suction Easy they are small and pack well.
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#154890 - 11/11/08 11:11 AM
Re: My Vehicle FAK- PIC warning
[Re: KR20]
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Thanks, I live in Poland, and Suction Easy is unavailable here. (only suction bulbs,S.E. costs 10 times more) My rubber bulbs are enough (smiliar suction power) I think. Actually, I am thinking about adding O2 kit to my backpack, and I'm going to have EMT-B course next month. What should I add?
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#154893 - 11/11/08 12:57 PM
Re: My Vehicle FAK- PIC warning
[Re: JIM]
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Pooh-Bah
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There is a whole whack of stuff that you both carry that I am not even slightly trained to use, but after looking at your stuff I can see that there are a few more things I may have to squeeze into my trauma kit somehow. That's the most important thing: You see the kits of other people and get ideas of what you could/should add or what you could leave out. And your trauma-bag is really nice. It does what you want it to do and you're comfortable with it. Nothing more and nothing less! Once again, good job! well more importently with first aid, don't do things your not certified and trained in on other persons. I have seen your first aid kits on this and other forums JIM and i have seen lots of things your probably not trained and certified to use. A importent roul of first is knowing what to do and what NOT to do.
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#154937 - 11/11/08 07:25 PM
Re: My Vehicle FAK- PIC warning
[Re: wxp]
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Here is the BLS kit that I keep in the car.    Pacific Emergency Trauma Module 1 Full Set of OPAs 2 Triangle Bandages 1 Izzy Bandage 4 Sets of Gloves 1 Roll of Tape 2 Ace Bandages 1 Roll of Kling 1 AMK Blanket 1 Set of NPAs 1 Pocket BVM 2 5x9 Trauma Pads 2 Telfa Pads 1 Petrolatum Gauze 4 Sterile 4x4s Hand Full of Non Sterile 4x4 Stethoscope 1 Lg Trauma Dressing Trauma Shears 2 Hemostat Suction Easy 4 Saline Bullets 1 Asherman Chest Seal 2 Bio Bags 1 Sam Splint Soft Shell 1 WMA SOAP Pad Pen Inova LED Light
Edited by KR20 (11/11/08 07:28 PM)
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#154939 - 11/11/08 07:48 PM
Re: My Vehicle FAK- PIC warning
[Re: Jeff_M]
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#154973 - 11/12/08 01:11 AM
Re: My Vehicle FAK- PIC warning
[Re: KR20]
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The 60cc syringe works great. Some of the advantages of the Suction Easy is that I can use it one handed and it keeps most of the mess self contained. I haven't tried that one. It looks nice, simple and compact, much better than the competition I've seen. I may have to get one. Thanks for showing it. Jeff
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#154986 - 11/12/08 02:45 AM
Re: My Vehicle FAK- PIC warning
[Re: Jeff_M]
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Pooh-Bah
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For suction, I just use a 60cc syringe attached to about 8 inches of suction tubing. It is cheap, compact, easy to use, and at least as effective as a couple of the expensive manual devices I've tried.
Jeff Jeez, that's bone-head simple. I should have thought of that! Now I'm going to steal that idea. Ditto the above on having stuff outside your scope. I've been debating adding a few bags of saline, but I don't know if A) they hold up to winters in Michigan (not to mention the catastrophic effects of infusing a nearly freezing IV fluid), and B) "technically" it's outside my scope.... til May.
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#154987 - 11/12/08 02:49 AM
Re: My Vehicle FAK- PIC warning
[Re: MDinana]
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You upgrading to Specialist or Paramedic?
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#155045 - 11/12/08 06:48 PM
Re: My Vehicle FAK- PIC warning
[Re: KR20]
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Registered: 11/10/08
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Well, recently I made a suction tubing for 20cc syringe that I carry in my everyday FAK (made from iv infusion set tube) . I'll post photos of my IFAK soon.
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#155065 - 11/12/08 09:15 PM
Re: My Vehicle FAK- PIC warning
[Re: MDinana]
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Well that tops all. Good luck.
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#155079 - 11/12/08 11:21 PM
Re: My Vehicle FAK- PIC warning
[Re: KR20]
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Pooh-Bah
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Loc: Beer&Cheese country
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Maybe I should hold a "training" session on advanced techniques, and get lots of "by physician order" items too  You know, CPR, ACLS, BTLS, and First Responder all rolled into one. Sorry, no opiates will be sold!
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#155109 - 11/13/08 01:57 PM
Re: My Vehicle FAK- PIC warning
[Re: MDinana]
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My everyday FAK: compartment 1: 1x Trauma pad 1x ACE bandage 1x elastic bandage 2x gauze bandages 1x torniquet 1x survival blanket 1x long suction drain compartment 2 2x 2.4 inch x 4 inch wound dressing 2x triangle bandage 2x chest seal 1x 4x4 pad compartment 3 3x gloves 6x swabs 15x band-aids compartment 4 1x variety of personal meds 1x 20cc suction syringe+ drain 2x 10cc saline bullet compartment 5 1x tools& elementary survival stuff Outside: 1xEMT Shears 3x safety pins      
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