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#11541 - 12/25/02 05:16 AM Re: Gerber tool or leatherman- for use in car kit
Anonymous
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I just sold my Gerber Legend 800 on eBay, then went right out and bought a Wave with the tool adapter...if that tells ya anything!

John McIntire

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#11542 - 12/25/02 06:09 AM Re: Gerber tool or leatherman- for use in car kit
johnbaker Offline
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Registered: 01/17/02
Posts: 384
Loc: USA
Mark,

Get the Leatherman Supertool. Its implements tend to be bigger & stronger than those on the Wave. That is especially true of the pliers. They are a little longer & open a little wider. For me, that's often made the difference between the tool being usable & useful for various applications versus not usable at all. It also has a crimper, awl, & ruler, but no scissors.

I had an original Supertool for several years & bought a Wave as an auxiliary. The Wave has been useful, but not nearly as much so as a Supertool. Most of the time I carry the Supertool. The Wave still makes a good backup. The new Supertool should be even better than the original with its easier unlocking & more ergonomically shaped handles. OTOH, I have gotten Waves for my wife & 12 year old son. But their SAKs do not have scissors as mine does.

Incidentally, in comparison to a Gerber (I think it may have been an 800 Legend, tho memories do fade...), I was surprised by how narrowly the Gerber plier opened. For me, the Gerber did not seem nearly as useful.

Best wishes,

John

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#11543 - 12/26/02 03:28 AM Re: Gerber tool or leatherman- for use in car kit
Eugene Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 12/26/02
Posts: 2997
I thought about the same thing just buying a new (to me) truck myself. I had planned on buying something like a leatherman crunch, but for the price of it I was able to buy several other tools. My plan now is to buy another Wave as a backup incase my EDC wave ever gets lost or broken. I have an extended cab truck with the fold up jump seats in the rear. Between the hinges of each of the jump seats I was able to place a small daypack (Eagle Creek Sidekick). The passenger side pack I filled up with a small screwdriver set, small wrench set, and some racheting wrenches, and a pair of pliers. I'm trying to avoid having a socket set and screwdrivers with the removable bits as they tend to be easily lost. I pull out my small tool bag when I do maintenance to make sure I can do most everything I need with just those tools. Behind the drivers seat the bag there will contain a duplicate of all my EDC gear so I have a handy replacement in the event of loss, damage, theft, etc. For example it will eventually carry a spare Wave and currently has a spare Maglite as well as spare batteries as well as some extra gear I want handy like a sewing kit, maps and compass, etc. Anyway to sum a long boring post, When I choose extras for a car kit/bob I buy a duplicate of my EDC, with my luck the day I do loose something will be the day I really need it.

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#11544 - 12/26/02 04:12 PM Re: Gerber tool or leatherman- for use in car kit
Anonymous
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1)It WASN'T boring
2)It's got me thinking-what a great idea with the different rucksacks particularly tools-i no nothing about cars-my dad is teaching me on a saturday - we take apart the landrover in sections-work out potential spares needed and tools to do the jo so to have them under the seat would be useful
3)The idea with the kit in the back with spare EDC sounds great
4)Thankyoui very much it's got the grey matter really going-it's much appreciated-i'll sleep on it-see how i could implement it!

Mark

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#11545 - 12/26/02 11:01 PM Re: Gerber tool or leatherman- for use in car kit
Eugene Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 12/26/02
Posts: 2997
1) Thanks, its nice to know I don't bore someone <img src="images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
2) I learned a while back that if I don't keep things neat,organized and handy I tend to not put them away or not take them with me when I should. I have started to make everything I own portable and stored in some sort of bag/case for ease of use. I have a nice selection of tools in my garage in a big tool box, but its not handy to load in the back of the truck and lock it down so I didn't have it with me once on a long trip and had to buy tools when I broke down. I have started looking for places to store things for just incase on every vehice I own. Start with the basics: Go to an auto parts store and look up your vehicle in the little books there and buy one of every light and filter and fuse. Go home and try to replace each and note the tools need to do it. Buy a small plastic box to put the spare lights it (I got a little black box from sears that is small enough to sit on top of my battery. I noted that I needed a cross and torx screwdriver, 7mm nutdriver to replace all of the bulbs so I bought them and tossed them behind my jump seat, and then ,measured the space and went searching for a bag to fit there. As I do other maint such as changing oil and filters I buy the tools (at least Craftsman quality) and stick in my little bag while noting what I have and need on a small spreadsheet.
3) The EDC spares started out one day when I chaged the batteries in my AAA Mag lite and lost the little spring from the tailcap and couldn't find it. I work next to a mall so I stopped by the sears there and picked another up and decided once I replace the srping I will store it in the truck in case I ever break or loose the one I carry. So I bought another bag and started adding. I now have the AAA mag, spare batteries, advil packets, sewing kit, compass, etc all in one small survival bag. Not quite pocket carry but meant to suppliment the pocket carry If I need anything while away from home. I am starting to prefer the smaller soft sided bags as opposed to big metal ammo cans and such as the bags are easier to carry and can be flexed to fit in tight places like inside me seat hinges.

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#11546 - 12/27/02 07:55 AM Re: Gerber tool or leatherman- for use in car kit
Anonymous
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i like your style so much so i went into my landrover and detailed all the pockets and noocks and crannies and have a room in my house where i am trying to organise stuff for my trip-i have all my tools that i may need so far laid on the floor-extra survival itemsetc!!! I'm slowly building rucksacks and Bum bags to go in these spaces-landrovers are full of little pockets and things lol!!!

Thanks-really inspiring!-do you have any lists of the kit you carry-if you do i'd really appreciate it

Thanks Mark

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#11547 - 12/27/02 10:48 PM Re: Gerber tool or leatherman- for use in car kit
Eugene Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 12/26/02
Posts: 2997
I have a excel spreadsheet of my kit so far, send me a PM and I'll give you my e-mail, or send me your e-mail and I'll send it to you.

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