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#115124 - 12/08/07 06:00 AM Do you carry aspirin?
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Do you carry aspirin in case of heart attack?

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#115125 - 12/08/07 06:13 AM Re: Do you carry aspirin? [Re: teacher]
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No, but I take a Baby Aspirin (87mg) daily.
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#115127 - 12/08/07 07:27 AM Re: Do you carry aspirin? [Re: wildman800]
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Unless you are an M.D. you SHOULD NOT give asprin to a suspected heart attack victim.

Get them to lie down. Elevate their limbs. Keep them calm. Call 911.

The reason thay you DO NOT give it is that it is very difficult for untrained individuals to differentiate between a heart attack victim and someone who is suffering a stroke.

If it is a stroke you will kill them.
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#115129 - 12/08/07 08:08 AM Re: Do you carry aspirin? [Re: Leigh_Ratcliffe]
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Leigh. Do you have a reference for that?

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#115131 - 12/08/07 09:52 AM Re: Do you carry aspirin? [Re: Ian]
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Leigh,
I EDC asprin and as an EMT I can give it to any patient,(with medical control clearance) my Cardiologist says it's a good way to help if you're having chest pains "WARNING" if you are allergic to asprin "DO NOT TAKE"

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#115134 - 12/08/07 12:00 PM Re: Do you carry aspirin? [Re: Leigh_Ratcliffe]
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Originally Posted By: Leigh_Ratcliffe
Unless you are an M.D. you SHOULD NOT give asprin to a suspected heart attack victim.

Get them to lie down. Elevate their limbs. Keep them calm. Call 911.

The reason thay you DO NOT give it is that it is very difficult for untrained individuals to differentiate between a heart attack victim and someone who is suffering a stroke.

If it is a stroke you will kill them.


A stroke is basically the same thing as a heart-attack, just in different places. Giving aspirin to someone with a stroke won'kill him. Maybe you mean a aneurysm or internal bleeding?

I personally carry Acethaminophen, Ibuprofen and Asperin. This gives you some options in case someone is allergic, has GI-complains, etc.
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#115137 - 12/08/07 01:41 PM Re: Do you carry aspirin? [Re: JIM]
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I just recently bought one of those pill vials at Wally World and put the Bayer Aspirin's in it that they make just for that purpose, it's attached to my EDC
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#115138 - 12/08/07 03:01 PM Re: Do you carry aspirin? [Re: Shadow_oo00]
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I carry asprin for that reason...just a couple of pills just in case.

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#115141 - 12/08/07 03:22 PM Re: Do you carry aspirin? [Re: JIM]
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Originally Posted By: JIM
Originally Posted By: Leigh_Ratcliffe
Unless you are an M.D. you SHOULD NOT give asprin to a suspected heart attack victim.

Get them to lie down. Elevate their limbs. Keep them calm. Call 911.

The reason thay you DO NOT give it is that it is very difficult for untrained individuals to differentiate between a heart attack victim and someone who is suffering a stroke.

If it is a stroke you will kill them.


A stroke is basically the same thing as a heart-attack, just in different places. Giving aspirin to someone with a stroke won'kill him. Maybe you mean a aneurysm or internal bleeding?

I personally carry Acethaminophen, Ibuprofen and Asperin. This gives you some options in case someone is allergic, has GI-complains, etc.
Don't confuse headaches and heart attacks. Acethaminophen/Tylenol is great for a simple headache, but the reason Aspirin is used in suspected heart attacks is for its anti-platelet (blood-thinning) properties. AFAIK Acetaminophen and Ibuprofen do not have anti-platelet properties.

Be careful when using Acetaminophen, the side-effects can be extremely harmful to your liver.

I carry Aspirin and Ibuprophen/Motrin.

I'm not a doctor and don't play one on the web, so don't take the above as medical advice, talk a real doctor.
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#115151 - 12/08/07 04:34 PM Re: Do you carry aspirin? [Re: Leigh_Ratcliffe]
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Originally Posted By: Leigh_Ratcliffe
Unless you are an M.D. you SHOULD NOT give asprin to a suspected heart attack victim.

Get them to lie down. Elevate their limbs. Keep them calm. Call 911.

The reason thay you DO NOT give it is that it is very difficult for untrained individuals to differentiate between a heart attack victim and someone who is suffering a stroke.

If it is a stroke you will kill them.

There are main types of strokes. An ischemic stroke is caused by a blood clot in the brain, and is the type that is similar to a heart attack. A hemorrhagic stroke, on the other hand, is caused by a ruptured blood vessel in the brain.

If it is a blood clot (ischemic) stroke, Aspirin will help the victim. If it is a ruptured blood vessel (hemorrhagic) stroke, Aspirin will make matters worse.

Citation: American Heart Association: Aspirin in Heart Attack and Stroke Prevention
Quote:
Taking aspirin isn't advised during a stroke, because not all strokes are caused by blood clots. Most strokes are caused by clots, but some are caused by ruptured blood vessels. Taking aspirin could potentially make these bleeding strokes more severe.
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