Thanks, that explains it. I will just have to find another way. BTW I could get an altoids tin in the pouch but it was VERY tight. So I cut off the elastic band that was around the pouch and now the tin is so sloppy I have room for more stuff. I now use a ranger band to keep out the rattle which I believe was the purpose of the elastic to begin with.

Also, (if anyone is having this problem) When I first got it the blade was sloppy in the kydex and rattled alot. I slipped out the kydex from the sheath and on the bottom of the kydex I slipped on a belt clip that was off of an old broken tape measure. Slid the kydex back in the sheath and now it holds the blade tight. Others, heated their kydex and pressed it closer togeather while it cooled which holds the blade tighter.

Neal