A couple of weeks ago we had our grandson with us for the first time in about six months. He is almost nine. Wears his shoes in the CA kid way, laces all undone, shuffling along so the shoes don't fall off. During the day we discovered that not only did he not know how to tie his laces, he had a major problem Untying a bow knot. Probably a combo of a lazy mom and the culture. Within probably 15 minutes we had him tying an acceptable bow knot. Sad. I can still remember making the paper (red and white) saddle oxfords, with red yarn at laces, and learning to tie them in KINDERGARDEN. Sad...