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#11383 - 01/01/03 03:33 PM Re: Travel and PSKs
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>>If you really need a blade, buy a bottle of wine in the duty free shop. Then you can smash it and use the broken glass if you need to.<<

Ooh, good call! Not only as a blade but it'd also make an excellent bludgeon in the tiny chance someone is ever stupid enough to attempt to hijack another plane with any weapon less than high-capacity firearms or some form of explosives. I'm off to the duty-free shop! <img src="images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Personally I flew over Christmas for the first time since 9/11, mainly due to economics, not desire or any real concerns. I packed a picture cube 3"x3" made out of heavy plastic (Lucite I think) with sharp corners. In the incredibly small chance of something happening I figured it would be fairly effective either thrown or wrapped in a shirt and wielded like a flail. (Does anyone else's wife (or husband) think they're hopelessly paranoid?! <img src="images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> )

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#11384 - 01/01/03 04:11 PM Re: Travel and PSKs
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the sucurity folks dont really look for sharpeners...
so if somebody wants a "good" blade they could take a sharpening stone with them and sharpen the stanisless steel knife you get with your meal ( in the WC.. )
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#11385 - 01/01/03 04:54 PM Re: Travel and PSKs
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Did I get that right? They don´t allow you to bring pointy things on board and issue potential weapons when you´re on the plane <img src="images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />?
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#11386 - 01/01/03 05:08 PM Re: Travel and PSKs
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those stainless steel food knife aint sharp ! ( that why the sharpeners come in handy for idiots ). you can make cutting movements with the knife on your arm without cutting your self... atleast with the airlines i flown with...
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#11387 - 01/01/03 05:18 PM Re: Travel and PSKs
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The bit about them giving you a fork and a knife reminds me about George Carlin's airline security routine! Anyways, I went on a flight
out of Regan over the Thanksgiving holiday, and I had packed a first aid kit altoids tin in my shaving kit, which was in my carry on (I'm a big believer in NOT checking luggage). It's makred first aid, but it is sealed with tape. I got stopped at 3 out of four legs of the trip and was searched. They went through my bags and my shaving kit, but nobody even batted an eye at my firstaid kit. Either they just weren't suprised at it, or they thought it was an actual altoids tin, or they missed it. Looking back at the experience, I think I'm going to make a special travel first aid kit for airplanes, and keep it with my luggage. The main difference would be that instead of using tape, I'd use ranger rick's rubber bands or a similar item to close it up; that would make it easier for the security personel to search it.

-Chris

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#11388 - 01/01/03 05:30 PM Re: Travel and PSKs
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Well, maybe you could still stab with the knife or the fork? Blunt tools cause very nasty wounds.
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#11389 - 01/07/03 01:56 PM Re: Travel and PSKs
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As I understand, this forum is not simply about how to bring your PSK in to the airplance, but about how to survive if you will not die during the airplane crash! <img src="images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> Well (in my humble opinion), if you manage to survive airplane crash (as Polak187 said, we have very small chance of surviving the real crash), then there should be also a few other survivors who will survive it too, shouldn’t be? Even if you have your PSK, you will have to share it with other people, and I do not think it would satisfy needs of all survived passengers, because there are not many people who carry PSKs. <img src="images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />Therefore, I do not think PSK will considerably improve your chances of survival and you will still not be able to sustain long period. Also, in some countries rescue missions may be delayed simply because of speculations that you did not survive, should be already dead, or simply cannot find you. <img src="images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />So, you will need to ask for help and ask it quickly (if airplane already did not send its coordinates after crashing). Therefore the best option, to my opinion, is to keep GPS and satellite phone with yourself on the airplane and all the rest put in luggage. Also, GPS and satellite phone will help you more than knives and guns if you travel abroad, because in some countries you can be regularly searched by police that you will prefer not to have even a pen knife in your pocket to reduce possible troubles with police ( this is usually practised in countries with high crime rate, especially of former USSR) <img src="images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> . In case of danger you can use satellite phone to call for help. I do not think you should take the risk to bring in a prohibited item into the cabin of an airplane, especially when you have higher chance to be caught than to use it . What do you think?
Regards,


Edited by Ebakeev (01/07/03 02:01 PM)

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#11390 - 01/07/03 03:54 PM Re: Travel and PSKs
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>> I do not think you should take the risk to bring in a prohibited item into the cabin of an airplane, especially when you have higher chance to be caught than to use it .<<

I agree 100% with that. t doesn´t make sense to try and sneak it into the cabin. For me it just doesn´t make sense to prohibit items that could possibly be used as a weapon (e. g. the 2" nail file or a ball point pen) and give items (e. g. the stainless steel knife or fork) that could be used as weapons with little or no effort to the passengers when they´re on board the plane.
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