#112775 - 11/17/07 11:32 PM
Re: Can urine be useful in survival situation?
[Re: BigCityHillbilly]
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From the site's "precautions" page: Diet for the most intense forms of the internal technique (that is three or more glasses per day), should be low in protein and salt. Refined, processed and synthetic foods should be avoided, for example, white sugar, refined flour, tinned food, and so on.
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Loose stools: fasting and complete rest for one day is probably the best measure. Plenty of boiled or distilled water and lemon juice is suggested. The toxins of the body that have been loosened by amaroli then have a chance to be eliminated.
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Skin eruptions such as pimples and boils can be treated in the following ways. In the early stages rub the lesion with urine and leave the urine on for one or two hours before washing if off ... .
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Vomiting may occur when the urine is especially bad tasting and smelling ... .
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After vomiting urine, you should rest and take some light fluids such as lemon water or some other fluid replacement.
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Regular checking of the body temperature should ensure that it does not go too high. In such a case the head should be cooled down with cold water application and the feet massaged with ghee. If the temperature still stays up after one hour, aspirin may be taken only as a last resort.
http://www.urinetherapeutics.com/precautions.htmWho wrote this Web site? If I'm so dehydrated I'm drinking urine, what do I do about diarrhea and vomiting? Drink more urine to replace the lost fluids? And what about sweating because of the fever which appears to result from drinking urine? Who wrote this Web site? Anyway - as I said, whoever wants to drink their urine can have at it. I'm not popping their pimples, lancing their boils, and changing their underwear though.
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#112777 - 11/17/07 11:57 PM
Re: Can urine be useful in survival situation?
[Re: BigCityHillbilly]
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With all due respect to "urinetherapeutics" the one use for urine I conspicuously didn't include was drinking it. Gandhi, and not a few others, are free to drink their own urine. There is an entire industry out there dealing with drinking urine and other more recreational uses.
Insert the term "urinetherapeutics" and/or "golden shower" into any search engine and you will get more than and eye-full. Other than a passing interest and cursory examination on my part, for purely educational purposes I assure you, I don't go that way.
I do note that, as far as I can tell, Gandhi and the others consuming or having fun with their urine are not in situations where water is in short supply. Probably a good thing. I imagine after drinking urine or otherwise playing in it I would be looking for some fresh water to wash out my mouth and take a long shower in.
I also have my doubts as to the effective truth of the claim that "urine is not a toxic substance". OK I realize that most people, as long as they chase their urine with sufficient water, don't get poisoned by it. And I'm also aware that certain cultures, outside the wilder side of the sex industry, do consume urine for various reasons.
Inuit medicine men are said to harvest a rare fungi that has hallucinogenic properties. To get the most use of the plant the compound is reused. The urine excreted after the drug is given is carefully collected and reused on the next patient. Evidently the hallucinogen is not broken down by the body and it remains very much chemically effective through several uses.
This came to mind reading about some modern problems. First was antibiotic resistance. Many antibiotics remain intact through the body and are excreted primarily in the urine. Currently most are simply flushed away and dispersed into the environment. It is well documented that many of the most widely used antibiotics show up in significant concentrations in the nations waterways. Come to find out antibiotics survive sewage treatment also.
Which strikes me as a pretty good way of making sure that resistance to that particular antibiotic will develop quickly and become widespread across a wide cross-section of bacteria. Flushed down a toilet the antibiotic is greatly diluted and exposed to a variety of bacteria from other humans.
Another thought is that some of the more exotic antibiotics are very expensive.
It sounds to me like it would produce positive results on both ends if persons taking these rarer antibiotics were confined to a structure with a dedicated sewage treatment facility. One where the sewerage is incinerated or otherwise treated in such a way that the antibiotics are completely destroyed so they are not released into the environment. Some thought to the collection of and recycling of antibiotics, or other medical compounds, from urine might also be looked into.
Perhaps the Inuit medicine-men were on to something when they practiced their radical recycling.
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#112781 - 11/18/07 01:34 AM
Re: Can urine be useful in survival situation?
[Re: BigCityHillbilly]
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"Well, urine is not a toxic waste product and this has been scientifically proven." Actually, urine IS a waste product, and it HAS been scientifically proven. Just because someone with a website who is trying to make a buck off some crackpot theory of drinking urine or rubbing s**t on your skin or spitting into the wind says different, doesn't make it so. I have a second cousin who has a website on palmistry here: http://www.handanalysis.net/But he doesn't have either my belief or any of my money. Sue
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#112877 - 11/19/07 01:02 AM
Re: Can urine be useful in survival situation?
[Re: Susan]
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Ya gotta watch those second cousins...
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#112923 - 11/19/07 04:30 AM
Re: Can urine be useful in survival situation?
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OBG, it just KILLS me how he's raking in the big bucks on that scam. Here, Europe, it doesn't matter. People are standing in line to give him their money, and it's not small change, either.
Sue
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#112937 - 11/19/07 11:38 AM
Re: Can urine be useful in survival situation?
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As long as a person places money over people you can convince them of anything. I think Barnum was the one to say "there's a sucker born every minute"
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#112942 - 11/19/07 12:33 PM
Re: Can urine be useful in survival situation?
[Re: philip]
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Who wrote this Web site?
Anyway - as I said, whoever wants to drink their urine can have at it. I'm not popping their pimples, lancing their boils, and changing their underwear though. I can't believe the subject of human placentophagy hasn't been brought up in this thread yet... Jim
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#112950 - 11/19/07 03:20 PM
Re: Can urine be useful in survival situation?
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Ugh!!!
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#113009 - 11/20/07 12:07 AM
Re: Can urine be useful in survival situation?
[Re: Susan]
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You can marry second cousins in many locations. Then there is divoce and spousal support (aka alimony). Something crappy for you to consider...
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#113025 - 11/20/07 01:38 AM
Re: Can urine be useful in survival situation?
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"placentophagy"
It has been done for practical reason, decreased recovery time, higher survival rates and, increased maternal health, for several thousand years. I have a nice recipe for a stew.
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