Yeah I totally agree that Dogsofwar got a raw deal.I feel bad for the guy, He didn't deserve that kinda response. He made some very valid points in his post. Sure it was a bit on the ramblin' side, but we all can't be Shakespeare. I for one wasn't surprised though, some old-timers here seem to get annoyed with so-called "newbies" asking questions that have been asked & answered before. There are some guys/gals here with some real attitude problems as well. I come on here because I've become addicted to checking in several times a day. But these new guys come here because they want to learn from people that have been into preparedness longer than they have. A lot of them get scared off by some of the more aggressive members here. I also apalogise to Dogsofwar, & thank him for his service.