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| #111422 - 11/05/07 01:26 AM  Re: What foods should I bring?
[Re: OldBaldGuy] |  
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   Registered:  11/30/05
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OBG,
 Are those made from American Rats or are they imported?
 
 
 
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 samhain autumnwood
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| #111425 - 11/05/07 01:50 AM  Re: What foods should I bring?
[Re: OldBaldGuy] |  
|   Journeyman
 
 Registered:  10/17/07
 Posts: 79
 Loc:  Missouri
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"...C-Rats like a can of chili, beef stew, chicken & dumplings, etc...
 
 That my friend, is NOT a C-Rat.  Nothing you can find in a store today comes close to being as lousy as a real C-Rat...
Canned orange nut rolls.....if we had dropped these instead of bombs, it all would have been over quickly. |  
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| #111444 - 11/05/07 03:14 AM  Re: What foods should I bring?
[Re: rabagley] |  
|   Cranky Geek
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   Registered:  09/08/05
 Posts: 4642
 Loc:  Vermont
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Soda can stoves are a generally no-go in winter, just like any alcohol stove is. Too cold, and you don't get vaporization, and that is key with any liquid fuel.
 I'm working on ways around it, but they all involve carrying the stove and the fuel in your clothing with you. Working with Trangias, I've rigged up something that lets them burn while sitting on a block ice, but you have to pre-heat the riser, keep the fuel relatively warm, and it is only in the most experimental stages until winter gets here.
 
 If people want to experiment, a small can of Hormel ham or turkey (might work with other brands, these are what I have around) fit the underside of a military Trangia perfectly. If you burn a little bit of solid fuel (tinder) in the bottom of it for a minute, then snuff it with the Trangia before fueling, it works so far. But as I said, I haven't given it a serious test, and when I've chilled the fuel (bottle sitting on ice) it fizzles badly.
 
 Instead, if you want to keep it as small and light as possible, a small pot candle like the Nuwicks. But it is kinda hard to boil water over candles in my experince, and you need HOT water to properly restore most dehydrated food. You can use warm water, but I've found it leave the most uncomfortable "swallowed a bowling ball" feeling as your guts try to cramp around it.
 
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 When a man dare not speak without malice for fear of giving insult, that is when truth starts to die. Truth is the truest freedom.
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| #111465 - 11/05/07 12:45 PM  Re: What foods should I bring?
[Re: Russ] |  
|   Rapscallion
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   Registered:  02/06/04
 Posts: 4020
 Loc:  Anchorage AK
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If you want it to last longer, make sure you get the meat good and dry before mixing the batch up.  The drier the inside is, the longer it will go.  Also, render the beef fat twice if you can.  It will hold up a little longer. 
_________________________The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.
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| #111466 - 11/05/07 12:46 PM  Re: What foods should I bring?
[Re: OldBaldGuy] |  
|   Rapscallion
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   Registered:  02/06/04
 Posts: 4020
 Loc:  Anchorage AK
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Oh I dunno, some of those spanish labeled potted meat products they sell at the dollar stores probably come close... 
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| #111475 - 11/05/07 01:43 PM  Re: What foods should I bring?
[Re: benjammin] |  
|   Carpal Tunnel
 
   Registered:  11/09/06
 Posts: 2851
 Loc:  La-USA
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I will once again clarify my use of the word C-Ration:  A basic meal in a can.  Although the commercial versions of C-Rats are much better than the old military version, I think the term still applies.
 Sue me if I am that far off of the mark and am guilty of "false advertising" or "bait and switch" terminology.
 
_________________________QMC, USCG (Ret)
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| #111569 - 11/05/07 10:55 PM  Re: What foods should I bring?
[Re: jay2] |  
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 Registered:  04/24/05
 Posts: 122
 Loc:  Upstate NewYork
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Old Bald Guy: You mean someone out there makes C-rat Ham and Mother----s ? Good Lord, man, it hurts my innerds just remembering them. The next thing you'll tell me is Ham & Eggs are availiable.....
 
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| #111570 - 11/05/07 11:04 PM  Re: What foods should I bring?
[Re: Woodsloafer] |  
|   Carpal Tunnel
 
   Registered:  11/09/06
 Posts: 2851
 Loc:  La-USA
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Don't forget the munitions certified pound cake!!!!! 
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