LOL<br><br>jw's response was not, shall we say, entirely unexpected :-)<br><br>I do find it curious, though, that people who take pride in learning how to generate fire using quartz and fool's gold seem to balk at learning how to navigate using equally primitive methods. ;-)<br><br>For one thing, there seems to be a fashion in "survival" today that emphasizes the native American skills, probably as a result of books by authors like Tom Brown and Larry Dean Olsen. Not that there's anything wrong with that; but being of European descent myself (although not Greek), I think there's probably a lot we can learn from my ancestors as well. :-)<br><br>For another, mathematics (as taught in schools today) is insufferably boring - and I say this as someone who loves solving math puzzles. Would our children be more interested if we took them out in the woods for a weekend, broke them into groups of four, and challenged them to find their latitude and longitude using the mathematical skills they had learned in geometry and trigonometry? <br><br>Who can say?<br>