I'm not picking per say- I'm the guy who learned to drive stick becuase there is a wonderful thing called a Shelby Cobra. The real one, not the remake. But if I ever own one, yeah... It will a toy, not my everyday ride. (Still, I'd have to put in a mini safe for a CZ-75 if I did.) But I'd get a chuckle if you only owned a sports car.

It's not the manufacturers numbers that you see on the window sticker. Those numbers are from unrealistic EPA test requirements and the new revised tests have even more error in them. With the hills and traffic lights around here I come close to meeting the EPA numbers from the old test methods.

From the Toyota web site Toyota web site


I only get down to these mileages if I'm hotroding it in the winter in town. During warmer weather my best highway mpg was 41. For real world mileages try here greenhybrid.com. Getting them in town does require changing your driving habits some but its not a large change. Anticipating lights going red so you can coast rather than running up to the intersection & braking, the difference between accelerating smartly and a jackrabbit start, etc.

"...I didn't see this as pointed to anyone in particular..."

I suspect that, since it was below a quote from a particular person, that was the reason for the "zap"...

A friend of mine has a real 289 Cobra (CSX 2208) that he has owned since he was a teenager. He bought it for $3,000. Today it's worth at least $250,000. Talk about a return on your investment. I would love to own his car, but I've got an '03 Mustang Cobra convertible with 500hp that keeps me busy. It's not the same, but at least I've got the faster car.

The Prius was released for public sale in Japan in 1997 & the US in 2000 (they test them & work the bugs out first over there).



Most definitely. That's why I hated giving up the pickup for it. 200 mile round trip commute for school two days a week & 12yr old w/ 120k didn't go well together. That & the $70 fill up.



Its not intended to be. Its a four door sedan not a Mustang. The ride is the same at 80+ as it is at 55. Weight distribution is 58/42 front/rear IIRC. I haven't had to push the handling yet.

Ford didn't release an official anniversary edition but the designer that did the last body changes didn't forget it.

"...inverse relationship between penis size and truck size..."

We just bought a short bed P/U, is that good, or bad???

...inverse relationship between penis size and truck size..."

I don't think that has any truth any more. I have a full size truck and have nothing to proove, it was the only way to be able to carry four people and still have at least 6' bed, all the small trucks have real short beds when you have more than the standard cab.

I must really be hating it then. Not only do I drive a 3/4 ton Dodge, but it has a "Magnum" V-10 engine too! (Hangs head in shame... )

"...inverse relationship between penis size and truck size..."

What happens if the owner of the full-size truck is female? This kind of personal attack normally comes into play when someone can not justify their position other than attach the person.

There is even some kind of ad out there trying to use this same tactic. How pathetic!

How many trips does it take in a prius to get 6 adults and all their camping equip from downtown up 2 hours into the mountains for a weekend camping? Doesn't it makes sense to take a larger vehicle that can do it all in one trip?