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#109579 - 10/22/07 11:39 PM Re: Universal cell phone battery adapter [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
OldBaldGuy Offline
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Thanks. But for $60 I can buy a couple of extra batteries, and use my car charger...
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#109583 - 10/22/07 11:48 PM Re: Universal cell phone battery adapter [Re: ]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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Hi Hacksaw,

For a home brew 1AA cell USB charger would the National Semiconductor LM2623 be a good place to start.


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#109586 - 10/22/07 11:57 PM Re: Universal cell phone battery adapter [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
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Ladyada uses a MAX756-CPA but it's all the same really. I'd use whatever the local electronics place had if I were to build one.

I just thought of another reason to buy instead of build (unfortunately):

The Mintyboost (and items like it) is an improvised electronics device and if you try to take it onto a plane you're likely to have a very bad day...if they find it that is.

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#109590 - 10/23/07 12:39 AM Re: Universal cell phone battery adapter [Re: ]
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Look at the igo.

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#109594 - 10/23/07 01:09 AM Re: Universal cell phone battery adapter [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
Alex Offline
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I've got that Turbo Charge thing, which NightHiker has mentioned a while ago (thanks!), very cheap on eBay with a bunch of connectors for all of my 3 cell-phones. I believe, that the primary problem is actually the phone plug (I have exactly that weird USB powered Motorola phone, mentioned above, and two different Samsungs). It's not always easy to improvise a reliable connector, especially in the field.

Here is my solution. I have all of my chargers wires cut near the phone/PDA/MP3/Radio/GPS/PSP/Camera/etc connector and rejoined back with widely available 3.5mm audio connector male/female pair (kinda bulky, thinking of switching to 2.5mm as on the Turbo Charge thing). Most of these devices needs 5V of charging voltage, so, I'm carrying the single 110V/5V wall adapter, 12V/5V regulated car adapter (regulated means that you can get a stable 5V output from any 9-24V DC input, not possible with a single resistor solution, mentioned above), and the PowerBank thing (which is basically a compact 3600mAh rechargeable battery with regulated (1.5V-12V, 0.5V step) output and 12-24V charging circuit). - Everything with the matching 3.5mm audio plug. Plus, some weird USB/3.5mm charging wireloom cable pair compatible with everything on the picture (just some job specifics cool ). I'm also have a couple of Y audio splitters allowing to charge 2-3 gadgets simultaneously.

Only some of the connectors are shown on the image (others are in the car at the moment). The bare wires plug is also included (small coil on the bottom left). I'm usually charging the PowerBank first (with solar power in the field) and then, everything else:

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#109597 - 10/23/07 01:29 AM Re: Universal cell phone battery adapter [Re: Alex]
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#109635 - 10/23/07 06:41 AM Re: Universal cell phone battery adapter [Re: Blast]
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I have a couple of those turbo charger things. And like any diligent ETSer, I tried it out in a controlled situation. CR@P! It gives you enough juice for a couple of short phone calls on one AA. It seems the newer the phone, the worse it works.

Now the Motorola mini USB charger is fantastic. One fully charged recharger will give at least 2-3 FULL recharges to your phone. I have tried it on three different phones, including my Blackberry Pearl, my wife's Motorola Sliver, and her friend's something else phone. All on one camping trip! I think full recharge of the phone takes 1-3 hours. I am not sure as I charge mine after a couple of days when I am sleeping. My wife's friend's phone went from about dead to fully charged in 1-3 hours. I wasn't really keeping track of the charging time while at camp. But she did use her phone with the charger plugged in. It looked kinda funny, but it worked.
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#109648 - 10/23/07 10:50 AM Re: Universal cell phone battery adapter [Re: dougwalkabout]
ame Offline
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Registered: 10/15/05
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Loc: Korea
Originally Posted By: dougwalkabout

If you take apart a standard car charger, you will find it's an incredibly simple circuit: it just puts a fuse and a resistor in series, which drop the voltage down to the appropriate level. Mine (for older Nokias) drop 14-ish volts down to about 4.5 volts.


Umm, not quite. The previous poster was right when he said it was a DC-DC converter. Basically this is a step-down switching power supply which converts 12V from your car (or 24V from your truck) to 5V for your phone. It's a small IC-based circuit, a little more complicated than a fuse and a resistor. Most phones, as you say, have a 3.6V battery, and a 5V supply is ideal to charge it.

Originally Posted By: dougwalkabout

I think the "single AA" chargers must use a "puck" -- that is, a voltage doubler. This is the same kind of circuitry used in LED flashlights that run a LED on two 1.5V alkalines (the LED needs perhaps 3.6 - 4.0 V to run).


True. The puck is a step-up DC-DC converter. They convert the 1.5V of the AA cell to about 5V to charge the phone. It won't fully charge the phone, but it will allow you to use it, and AAs are (usually) plentiful.

Originally Posted By: dougwalkabout

I a genuine emergency, where the phone is dead and you have nothing to lose, consider this: if I understand correctly, a phone that's off and close to dead still "pings" local towers, and that can be used to help locate you. You may or may not want to jeopardize that feature by messing with the phone. But if you're sure you have reception, and a few calls will get you out in a hurry, that may be an acceptable risk.


Sorry, not correct. When your phone is off, it's off. The only thing that is still running is the clock, which is used to activate an alarm clock if it is set.


My general solution is to buy a USB power cable for my phone. I used to have a Nokia 8210, and I had a couple of USB power cables lying around. If I didn't have my car charger or wall charger I could still plug the phone into a USB port on a PC or laptop and charge it up that way. I just got a Samsung phone, and as well as a wall charger it comes with a USB cable for getting data onto the phone which also happens to charge the phone. I strongly suggest that you get a cable like this as USB connectors are popping up all over the place (please keep reading).

I am migrating towards two connector types for my DC power requirements. Anderson PowerPoles for 12Vdc, and USB for 5V. Once you have built a couple of looms and adaptors with these connectors then it all starts getting fun.

Now, you can get wall adapters that run from 110-240Vac and provide 5Vdc on a USB outlet, and car adaptors that take 12-24Vdc and provide 5Vdc on a USB outlet...

and this:

The Boxwave VersaCharger Pro

I found it when I was looking for this:
FreePlay Weza

Which I sort of covet. If only it had PowerPoles instead of a cigarette lighter socket.

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#109649 - 10/23/07 10:53 AM Re: Universal cell phone battery adapter [Re: ame]
ame Offline
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#109650 - 10/23/07 11:18 AM Re: Universal cell phone battery adapter [Re: ame]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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Registered: 08/03/07
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Not forgetting the Powermonkey Explorer of course. (Ruggedised version with solar charger and charge indicator display)


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