#109351 - 10/21/07 05:18 AM
New PSK from AMK
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New Kit coming this month...... The SOL kit. Link to SOL
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#109354 - 10/21/07 07:11 AM
Re: New PSK from AMK
[Re: duckear]
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Registered: 03/02/03
Posts: 1428
Loc: NJ, USA
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It's a real bare bones kit. No blade, only 8 matches, no instructions, ect.
I guess it's good for someone who already carries one of AMK's larger First Aid kits and already has basic backpacking gear on them (knife, lighter, cooking gear, ect). However, I think I'd rather have Dougs PSP over that. The only other thing it has, that Doug's doesn't, is the Heatsheets blanket. Sure, Doug's kit is $8 more, but I think the PSP has a lot more useful gear in it for someone who might actually need to improvise to stay alive. It also has instructions, which could be all the difference.
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#109364 - 10/21/07 12:27 PM
Re: New PSK from AMK
[Re: JIM]
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I am not a P.P.o.W.
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Registered: 05/16/05
Posts: 1058
Loc: Finger Lakes of NY State
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AMK PSP vs. AMK SOL kit babbling below.
IMHO, both are reasonable "STARTER" kits with many defiances, and much overlap. It looks to me the PSP kit has everything the SOL kit does (and more) except the dry bag, heatsheet, and matches with the duct tape being about 5 times as long in the SOL kit.
Looking at the AMK PSP, and the SOL kit it; the PSP has a Omni-Seal envelope, while the SOL kit has a dry bag as the container for the kit. I like that far more than the Omni- seal pouch.
I've not seen the SOL kit in person, but I will buy one just to see what it offers, and what will fit in the dry bag. With my normal EDC of a Alox Farmer SAK, Bark River PSK fixed blade knife (neck or pocket carry), 2 Photon X lights, Fisher Space pen and Rite in the Rain pad, supplemented AMK .3 FAK, a small hank of 2mm cord, 2 large bandannas; I can see a supplemented SOL kit working for me. I bet I can easily add a spark-lite, more tinder quick, small ALOX SAK (I HATE razor blades or scalpels in a kit), MP-1's, fish line and cord, the fishing kits could be combined(I added more to the PSP vial too), Waterproof Survival Instructions from a AMK PSP, wire, and whatever else I might be able to fit in. Perhaps combining the best parts of the SOL and PSP Kit, and adding supplemental items, one could build a very reasonable kit.
I'd make a bet one could boil in the dry bag if one were careful, using the hot rock method. Not sure how much it will hold though.
I wonder if it is a 1 or the 1/2 person AMK heatsheet?
I'll head to EMS today to see if they have a SOL in stock.
Supply list of each.
SOL Survival Pak - $25.00 Weight: 4.6 oz Size: 3.75" x 6" x 1"
Survival 1..... Heatsheet Survival Blanket 1..... Duct Tape, 2" x 100" 1..... Mini Rescue Flash Signal Mirror 1..... Waterproof Matches in Vial (8) 1..... Compass, Button, Liquid Filled 1..... Fishing Gear in Vial 1..... Tinder Quick™ Firestarter 1..... Mini Rescue Howler Whistle 1..... Compass, Button, Liquid Filled
Pocket Survival Pak™ - $33.00 Weight: 3.9 oz Size: 4" x 5" x 0.652"
Survival 1..... Signal Mirror, Rescue Flash™ 1..... Spark-Lite™ Fire Starter 4..... Tinder Quick™ Firestarter 1..... Whistle, Rescue Howler™ 1..... Waterproof Survival Instructions 1..... Duct Tape, 2" x 26" 1..... Scalpel with Handle, Sterile, Disposable, #22 Blade 1..... Compass, Button, Liquid Filled 1..... Aluminum Foil, Heavy Duty, 3 Sq. Ft. 1..... Waterproof Paper 1..... Fresnel Magnifier 6..... Safety Wire, Stainless Steel, (6 ft of 0.020") 1..... Sewing Thread, Bobbin #69, Nylon 10.... Nylon Cord, #18, Braided, (10 ft. 100lb test) 1..... Sewing Needle, #18, Chenille 4..... Fish Hook, #10 2..... Split Shot, Lead B 1..... Snap Swivel, Size 12 1..... Pencil 1..... Pocket Survival Pak Contents List 4..... Safety Pins
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#109367 - 10/21/07 12:41 PM
Re: New PSK from AMK
[Re: duckear]
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Not a good name for a survival kit.
SOL
S -h*t (or "So" if there's children and ladies around) O -ut of L -uck
an acronym i use quite freqently.
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#109371 - 10/21/07 12:59 PM
Re: New PSK from AMK
[Re: samhain]
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Registered: 03/18/06
Posts: 1032
Loc: The Netherlands
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Sadly Out-of Luck
I once again will post the current ETS-acronyms list. Any additions or modifications are (as usually) appreciated:
List of acronyms used on the ETS- forum:
AIRSAVE - (USAF) (see also, PALS & MOLLE) ABCDE= Airway/ Breathing/ Circulation/ Disability/ Exposure ABD-pad= ABDominal pad ACS- Ashermans Chest Seal or Advanced Clotting Sponge (Quick-Clot) ALICE - All-Purpose Lightweight Carrying Equipment ALS= Advanced Life Support ATLS- Advanced Trauma Life Support AM - Amplitude Modulation AIRSAVE - (USAF) (see also, PALS & MOLLE) AMK: Adventure Medical Kits ASAP= As Soon As Possible ASP: Aviation Survival Pak ABG= Arterial Blood Gas AFAIK - As Far As I Know AOT - As Opposed To AED: Automatic External Defibrillator ACS= Ashermans Chest Seal / Advanced Clotting Sponge (Quick-Clot)
BLS= Basic Life Support BOB=Bug Out or Bail Out Bag BOT= Bag of tricks BOV= Bug Out Vehicle BOL= Bug Out Location BTW - By the Way BK or BK's = Bloody Kid(s)! i.e. Anyone under 60. BOHICA- Bend Over, Here It Comes Again
CB - Citizens Band CHP - California highway patrol CPR - Cardio Pulmonary Resuscitation CRKT - Columbia River Knife and Tool CW - Continuous Wave (synonymous with radio Morse Code) C.D. or C.D's. - Coffin Dodger(s). i.e. Anyone over 60. CAT= Combat Application Tourniquet
"DW" means "Dear Wife" "DH" means "Dear Husband" (or sometimes Damn Husband!) "DD" is "Dear Daughter" DIY - Do it Yourself DFAK= Dental First Aid Kit DOA= Dead On Arrival
EDC- Every Day Carry EAS - Emergency Alert System EMP - Electro-Magnetic Pulse Epirb- Electronic positioning indicating radio beacon EBR - Emergency Broadcasting Radio EDC - Everyday carry ETS - Equipped to survive E&E- Escape and Evasion EMS- Emergency Medical Support EMT- Emergency Medical Technician EDP- Emotionally Disturbed Person
FCOL- For Crying Out Loud FWIW - For What it’s worth. FM - Frequency Modulation FRS - Family Radio Service FSK: Fire Starting Kit FAK: First Aid Kit FEMA: Federal Emergency Management Agency FUBAR - Fu**ed Up Beyond All Repair
GMDSS- Global Maritime Distress and Safety System GMRS - General Mobile Radio Service GPS - Global Positioning Satellite GCS- Glasgow Coma Scale / Glasgow Coma Score GHB- Get Home Bag
Ham - Amateur radio operator (not really an acronym) HF - High Frequency HTH - Hope this helps
IIRC - If I recall Correctly IMHO - In my humble opinion (also; In my honest Opinion) IME - In My Estimation IOW - In Other Words IANAL - I am not a lawyer INCH = I'm Never Coming Home Izzy= Isreali Dressing
KISS- Keep it Simple, Stupid (Keep It Super Simple) KSS- Kitchen Sink Survivalists
LBTOJ - Little brown truck of joy ( UPS) LED - Light Emitting Diode LTS - Long Term Survival LE - Law Enforcement LEO - Law Enforcement Officer LOC= Level Of Consciousness
MOLLE - Modular Lightweight Load-carrying Equipment (USMC) (also PALS) MRE - Meals Ready to Eat (Military Rations) MURS - Multi-Use Radio Service MMT- Mobile Medical Team MVA- Motor Vehicle Accident MSRP- Manufactures Suggested Retail Price MED= Medical Extrication Device
NOAA - National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration NBC- Nuclear/ Biological/ Chemical NPA= NasoPharyngial Airway NARP- North American Rescue Products
OTOH - On the Other Hand ORS- Oral Rehydratation Salts OPA= OroPharyngial Airway
PAW= Post Apocalyptic World PSK- Personal Survival Kit PALS - Pocket Attachment Ladder System (US Army) (also MOLLE) POV - Privately Owned Vehicle PSP - Pocket Survival Pak PHTLS- Pre Hospital Trauma Life Support PLB- Personal Locator Beacon PM- Private Message PPPPP: Proper Preparation Prevents Poor Performance PICNIC: Problem In Chair Not In Computer, also called PEBKAC- Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair.
RSK - Ritter survival knife RSKM2 – Ritter Survival Knife w/ M2 High Speed Steel RTG’S - Radioisotope thermal electric generators RMP= Squad car
SAM (splint)- Structural Aluminum Malleable SOS- Save Our Souls SOL- Sh** Out-of Luck SAK: Swiss Army Knife SAR- Search And Rescue SEP- Survival Equipment Pack (in a life-raft) SIP- Shelter In Place SWAT- Special Weapons And Tactics SF- Special Forces SAME - Specific Area Message Encoding (NOAA EAS feature) SCUBA - Self Contained Underwater Breathing Apparatus SAR - Search and rescue SAS - Special air service SRLB - Self Righting Life Boat STS- Short Term Survival STOP- Stop Think Observe Plan SIFMS -Sh** I forgot my stuff SNAFU - Situation Normal All Fu**ed Up
TANSTAAFL- There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch. TEOTWAWKI- The End Of The World As We Know It
UPSK- Urban Personal Survival Kit
WRT - With Respect To…. WTF- What The F**k WTSFTF- When The S**t Hits The Fan WYSIWYG- What you see is what you get
YASKT- Yet Another Survival Kit Thread YMMV- Your Mileage may vary
Edited by JIM (10/21/07 02:20 PM) Edit Reason: It was to polite they said...
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#109375 - 10/21/07 01:39 PM
Re: New PSK from AMK
[Re: Stu]
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Registered: 06/02/06
Posts: 5357
Loc: SOCAL
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I tried to order one and it came up as a backorder item. You can order, but it won't ship until released.
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#109376 - 10/21/07 01:41 PM
Re: New PSK from AMK
[Re: JIM]
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Registered: 12/01/05
Posts: 616
Loc: Oakland, California
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Jim, Sorry to say you are wrong it is Sh## not sadly when using SOL. Good try on the PC version though. Bill
Survive Outdoors Longer.............
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#109377 - 10/21/07 01:42 PM
Re: New PSK from AMK
[Re: billym]
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Registered: 03/18/06
Posts: 1032
Loc: The Netherlands
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I know it's sh**, but the 'polite' version is 'sadly' http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/SOL
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#109379 - 10/21/07 01:52 PM
Re: New PSK from AMK
[Re: JIM]
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Registered: 12/01/05
Posts: 616
Loc: Oakland, California
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Thanks for keeping us civil. Bill
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