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#108114 - 10/09/07 04:41 AM Where are the Ebay military MREs coming from?
xavier01 Offline
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I was under the impression that military MREs weren't available to the public, but there are a bunch on Ebay. Are these okay to eat? Are they some sort of inferior product? Any other issues?

Thank you very much.

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#108118 - 10/09/07 08:28 AM Re: Where are the Ebay military MREs coming from? [Re: xavier01]
LED Offline
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Those could either be people selling military issue MRE's or one of many imitation brands. Sometimes its hard to tell and you have no real way of knowing the expiration date, etc. IMO, if you can afford it, the best option would be to buy the "civilian" version MRE's from one of the four companies that makes them for the military. That way you have a basic quality and expiration date gurantee.

Here's a good website with information on MRE's.

http://www.mreinfo.com/us/mre/buying-mres.html

From the website under "civilian MRE's"

Quote:

Fortunately, around 2005, the civilian MRE market picked back up and more companies began producing legitimate, branded civilian MREs. All three of the major manufacturers of MREs for the military (Ameriqual, Sopakco, Wornick) now produce their own civilian MRE, too. Additionally, International Meals Supply, a certified supplier of emergency rations for the Department of Defense, has joined the civilian MRE race with their new "MREStar" product.



Edited by LED (10/09/07 08:34 AM)

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#108119 - 10/09/07 08:41 AM Re: Where are the Ebay military MREs coming from? [Re: LED]
simplesimon Offline
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If you known anyone in the military, they'll gladly use some supermarket food on exercise and sell you their MREs for beer money. MRE's are dearer than food from a shop so they can make on it.
simon

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#108120 - 10/09/07 09:18 AM Re: Where are the Ebay military MREs coming from? [Re: simplesimon]
LED Offline
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I agree that if you've got a friend willing to give/trade you some MRE's its a good way to go. But again, if you have the money, with the commercial version you get a variety of 12 full course meals. Over priced? Probably. But at least you know what you're getting. Having said that, I don't own any, but if I had the cash I'd buy a Sopako 12pack. I'd be awsome to go camping and not have to cook.

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#108123 - 10/09/07 11:24 AM Re: Where are the Ebay military MREs coming from? [Re: LED]
Shadow_oo00 Offline
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I bought 6 cases of the military MRE's off of Ebay. I haven't had any problems with them, all have the dates clearly marked on each case. All I can say about Ebay is check the sellers feedback, that usually tells if there is a problem.
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#108133 - 10/09/07 01:27 PM Re: Where are the Ebay military MREs coming from? [Re: Shadow_oo00]
norad45 Offline
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I'll second Ebay for MRE's, (although I'm beginning to dislike Ebay for unrelated reasons.) I've never had a problem with the quality or taste of the military rations either. I like the fact that the packaging appears to be able to withstand anything. Does anybody know if the civilian versions are packaged as tough as the military version?

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#108135 - 10/09/07 01:33 PM Re: Where are the Ebay military MREs coming from? [Re: xavier01]
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#108173 - 10/09/07 07:39 PM Re: Where are the Ebay military MREs coming from? [Re: xavier01]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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Has anyone been able to get hold of the some First Strike Rations? I think these were a development of the indestructible sandwich and the dehydrated ration you could urinate on to rehydrate them. Heck you would only need 1 chemical heater rather than 2 to heat them up. Gee those boffins at Natick are really clever smile


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#108205 - 10/10/07 02:28 AM Re: Where are the Ebay military MREs coming from? [Re: xavier01]
ironraven Offline
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A lot of them "fell off the back of the truck." Others were distributed by FEMA by the case after Katrina and these are the left overs.

Ignoring the legal issues, I wouldn't touch them. You have no idea how they were stored- MREs can tank in a few months if stored someplace very warm, say in a mechanical space. What I'd really like to see is one of the contractors producing exactly the same items, either assembled or ala carte, in civilian packaging. What we have is close, so... But at least buying a commercially produced and distributed item means you've got better odds of it being stored properly than "surplus" ones.

Me, I'm waiting for a civilian First Strike as well. Sounds like the best thing for BOB.
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#108212 - 10/10/07 03:51 AM Re: Where are the Ebay military MREs coming from? [Re: xavier01]
kd7fqd Offline
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Xavier
The company I use, Emergency Essentials is a good choice
www.beprepared.com
I have used them for over seven years for my church and we have never had trouble with the MRE's from them. in fact, it's time to rotate them. "shrugs" Oh well will have to wait till I'm back from vacation

Goin' to Indiana see ya in a couple of weeks

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#108218 - 10/10/07 09:28 AM Re: Where are the Ebay military MREs coming from? [Re: kd7fqd]
xavier01 Offline
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Registered: 12/02/02
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Loc: Phx, AZ
Thank you to all for your great replies. I have sent emails to 3 different sellers asking them how long they have had them and how they were stored. One persons feedback to one of the sellers said that the carton had mold on it.

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#108222 - 10/10/07 11:58 AM Re: Where are the Ebay military MREs coming from? [Re: xavier01]
norad45 Offline
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I have had good results from the seller "Cajunclara" who I think goes by "Cajunangel" now. She is more expensive than the others but the quality of her MRE's are always firstrate.

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#108243 - 10/10/07 03:14 PM Re: Where are the Ebay military MREs coming from? [Re: xavier01]
HerbG Offline
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Registered: 02/12/07
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In the aftermath of hurricane Katrina, many thousands of cases of MRE's were distributed in the Gulf Coast states, and some of those have made their way on to the market. As far as I know, there was no accounting for these, and I doubt the Feds are terribly concerned about who has them.

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#108314 - 10/11/07 12:54 AM Re: Where are the Ebay military MREs coming from? [Re: HerbG]
cliff Offline
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True. Post Katrina, you couldn't go to an aid station without getting a case per car. My bother had 20 plus cases by the time it was all over. He gave most away (Scouts, church groups, I think), kept a few for emergencies, and gave me 4 cases which I still have as my emergency stash.

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#113588 - 11/26/07 01:18 AM Re: Where are the Ebay military MREs coming from? [Re: kd7fqd]
Microage97 Offline
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Registered: 04/21/07
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You know when I was in the army, MREs came in one hell of a tough bag ready to go, not broken up into pieces like http://beprepared.com sales. I wonder what the deal is.

Dave

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#113605 - 11/26/07 02:55 AM Re: Where are the Ebay military MREs coming from? [Re: Microage97]
ironraven Offline
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They are selling the parts.

Most people buy a computer; some people buy parts and build their own. Same thing. Personally, I think USGI TP would have to improve to suck, and I only need so many spoons, so why should I (if I can find USGI MREs that I know are mostly legal) buy umpty accessory packs? I'll buy components and build what I need.
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#113764 - 11/27/07 03:44 AM Re: Where are the Ebay military MREs coming from? [Re: ironraven]
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Not to discount that method Ironraven, but that also leaves your kit without the main MRE shell. The broken down / stripped down versions are meant to be consumed soon or when your pack simply doesn't have the space for a mission. But once you break the outer seal on the overall pack, you lose some containment/protection. I'm not saying that the entree or other items are going to break down immediately or anything, but I'd be willing to bet money that they break down faster than the MREs which are left intact.

So I think that tactic depends on your goals. If it's long term storage for emergencies, keep them cool and intact. If you are going camping with them or know they'll be rotated out in a year or less, it's probably not an issue. I'm just throwing out a number on that... I have no earthly idea what the degradation is without it's outer shell. If nothing else, I know that the internal packs would develop fewer failures due to rough handling. Maybe one could vacuum seal custom packs after buying the parts? Probably not quite as good, but would certainly offer benefits.
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#113864 - 11/28/07 01:13 AM Re: Where are the Ebay military MREs coming from? [Re: massacre]
duckear Offline
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Originally Posted By: massacre
Not to discount that method Ironraven, but that also leaves your kit without the main MRE shell. The broken down / stripped down versions are meant to be consumed soon or when your pack simply doesn't have the space for a mission. But once you break the outer seal on the overall pack, you lose some containment/protection. I'm not saying that the entree or other items are going to break down immediately or anything, but I'd be willing to bet money that they break down faster than the MREs which are left intact.

So I think that tactic depends on your goals. If it's long term storage for emergencies, keep them cool and intact. If you are going camping with them or know they'll be rotated out in a year or less, it's probably not an issue. I'm just throwing out a number on that... I have no earthly idea what the degradation is without it's outer shell. If nothing else, I know that the internal packs would develop fewer failures due to rough handling. Maybe one could vacuum seal custom packs after buying the parts? Probably not quite as good, but would certainly offer benefits.



That has got to be the longest way to say " I don't have a clue what proven benefits the outer MRE bag offers, but I imagine it has some".





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#113884 - 11/28/07 03:36 AM Re: Where are the Ebay military MREs coming from? [Re: massacre]
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I'm not going to disagree with you, but I think the packaging of the MRE is over engineered to the point of insanity. I'll point out a few things I'm not expecting:

-Being run over by an armoured vehicle. The packaging of the MRE was designed so your lunch would survive being under an APC, thus the lack of forks. I'm afraid there are other things in my pack that I'd be more worked up over if they were run over.

-Being decontaminated. The outer bag was there so that the NBC troops could spray down and reissue MREs that had been exposed, and the outer bag would keep everything safe. I'm sorry, but if lunch comes with mustard gas, anthrax, or glows in the dark, I'm not THAT hungry.

-Being salvaged from a botched airdrop. One of the requirements was that the MRE packaging had to be able to survive a fall from some height when the parachute holding the pallet didn't work so well. I'm not expecting resupply by air in the first place.

The list of stuff like that goes on. Basically, it is a list of "he's dead, but his food is still good". I've known people who've packed the same stripped down MRE in their hunting packs since Desert Storm, and those inner bags have held up well. I feel pretty safe- I don't eat anything other than maybe some cheeses (wow, that will be sharp) or alcohol that is old enough to learn to drive. smile
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