Frank,<br><br>In looking for an older model Savage 24 (or any gun, for that matter), you may want to check regularly the listings online, Shotgun News, The Gun List, gun shows, and nearby gun shops. It took us a lengthy, diligent search to find ours. We found them at several gun shops within about 40 miles of our home.<br><br>You may also want to read regularly the postings at the Savage Discussion Group. It can be found at: <br><br> http://disc.server.com/Indices/180203.html<br><br>Incidentally, the subject of survival guns has been discussed several times over the last year on the ETS web site. All new members of the forum might find it very helpful to read the earlier postings on this forum. They really provide a gold mine of high quality survival ideas on a great variety of subjects.<br><br>Good luck,<br><br>John<br><br><br><br>