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#102848 - 08/17/07 06:08 PM I... I... What the iHell???
Naseem Offline
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Registered: 03/15/07
Posts: 31
Loc: Guyana, South America
Hmmph...

Anyone ever come across this?
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/funk-filter/i...ater-289318.php

Any iReviews or iThoughts? Is it iSafe?

I...
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#102850 - 08/17/07 06:59 PM Re: I... I... What the iHell??? [Re: Naseem]
Leigh_Ratcliffe Offline
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Registered: 03/31/06
Posts: 1355
Loc: United Kingdom.
Kills or removes 99.9999% of all known microorganisms. Which is another way of saying that it lets .0001% through. Which is one virus in every ten thousand. That's ten for every million. With some water born diseases that is more than sufficient to ensure infection. It is a pocket FILTER. Not a PURIFIER. It removes hard shelled microorganisms, bacteria etc from your drinking water. It DOES NOT remove viruses.

Why?


Because they are too small.

The Pen Filter - and they are all the same basic design - has a microporous filter whose holes are between 0.2 and 0.12 micrometers across(1 micrometer is 1/1000 of a mm). Which means that they are small enough to stop everything bigger than 0.12 micrometers across. Viruses are 0.1 micrometers across. That means that viruses pass straight through. Some of the nastier illnesses are caused by viruses.

However.

Viruses are easily killed by chemical purification. Some of the bigger wee nastys are not. Unless you happen to have access to MP-1 tablets.

So:

If you want to use one of these you should treat the water chemically first with chlorine tablets following the instructions on the packaging. You would be well advised to purchase the neutralising tablets at the same time. Drinking water that tastes like a swimming pool gets real old, real fast. Make sure that you use them in the correct order. Its good practice to store them in different pockets so as not to confuse them.

The pocket filter is a good idea. With in it's limitations. Which are the same as those for any travel filter. Correctly used they are a useful addition to any survival/travel kit.
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#102854 - 08/17/07 07:20 PM Re: I... I... What the iHell??? [Re: Leigh_Ratcliffe]
paramedicpete Offline
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Registered: 04/09/02
Posts: 1920
Loc: Frederick, Maryland
Actually, what is stated is that the “maker says it “reduces up to 99.99999% of waterborne bacteria””.

The reason it is not 100%, is the accepted standard in microbiology that one cannot prove a negative (100% reduction/elimination), so a 99.999…% reduction or X log reduction is standard terminology.

You are correct regarding the need to treat water for viral contamination with heat, chemical or UV methods and not just a filter.

Pete

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#102858 - 08/17/07 07:56 PM Re: I... I... What the iHell??? [Re: paramedicpete]
Paul810 Offline
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Registered: 03/02/03
Posts: 1428
Loc: NJ, USA
I don't know about that straw, but I did almost fall out of my chair after reading the comments.

"should be iSuck" grin

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#102860 - 08/17/07 08:07 PM Re: I... I... What the iHell??? [Re: Naseem]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 08/03/07
Posts: 3078
The iStraw certainly looks more glamourous than sucking a puddle of dirty water.




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#102867 - 08/17/07 10:20 PM Re: I... I... What the iHell??? [Re: Naseem]
samhain Offline
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Registered: 11/30/05
Posts: 598
Loc: Baton Rouge, Louisiana
I think the one the blonde's using would work better than the other one.
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#102870 - 08/17/07 11:22 PM Re: I... I... What the iHell??? [Re: samhain]
Susan Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
I'm sure its better than nothing, which is what most people have with them. If nothing else, it should filter out the mosquito larvae.

Sue

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#102896 - 08/18/07 02:06 PM Re: I... I... What the iHell??? [Re: Susan]
Leigh_Ratcliffe Offline
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Registered: 03/31/06
Posts: 1355
Loc: United Kingdom.
Originally Posted By: Susan
I'm sure its better than nothing, which is what most people have with them. If nothing else, it should filter out the mosquito larvae.

Sue


No! No! No! We want the larvae. Protein. grin
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#102897 - 08/18/07 02:08 PM Re: I... I... What the iHell??? [Re: paramedicpete]
Leigh_Ratcliffe Offline
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Registered: 03/31/06
Posts: 1355
Loc: United Kingdom.
Originally Posted By: paramedicpete
Actually, what is stated is that the “maker says it “reduces up to 99.99999% of waterborne bacteria””.

The reason it is not 100%, is the accepted standard in microbiology that one cannot prove a negative (100% reduction/elimination), so a 99.999…% reduction or X log reduction is standard terminology.

You are correct regarding the need to treat water for viral contamination with heat, chemical or UV methods and not just a filter.

Pete


Manufacture's instructions on the version I have states that you are advised to treat the water. I would any way. Just in case.
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