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#101496 - 08/03/07 07:43 PM Rope pully system.
MichaelJ Offline
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I just came across this on the web. It would be very useful in an emergency situation.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/746372/how_to_pull_a_van_uphill_with_only_a_rope/
Thoughts?

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#101497 - 08/03/07 07:47 PM Re: Rope pully system. [Re: MichaelJ]
Ian Offline
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Drivel, what you gain in purchase you lose more in friction.

Tie the rope to the car and the post , then pull at right angles to the rope. Take up the slack, try again.


Edited by Ian (08/03/07 07:48 PM)

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#101499 - 08/03/07 08:00 PM Re: Rope pully system. [Re: MichaelJ]
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A rewoven figure of eight knot is better than a bow-line. Puts less stress on the rope. A poorly tied knot will actually cut the rope.
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#101506 - 08/03/07 08:51 PM Re: Rope pully system. [Re: Leigh_Ratcliffe]
Alex Offline
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That's correct, if you're going to pull your car like that every day - some day the rope will break. smile

Great method for an emergencies!

Regarding the friction. It grows linearly with every bent section of the rope, but each pulley, after the first one (the post), divides the necessary pulling force by 2(so it's exponential). The exponent function grows faster than a linear one. So, the benefit of such a rope system over a single post pulley should be noticeable.

Check these basics of elementary physics involved:
http://www.howstuffworks.com/pulley.htm

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#101510 - 08/03/07 10:47 PM Re: Rope pully system. [Re: Alex]
Sventek Offline
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Registered: 06/23/07
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When I was younger, my dad taught me to use a much smaller version of this as a version of a trucker's hitch to tie down objects in the back of a load. I've learned the hard way that because of the force you can create, you can easily break whatever load you are tying down. Lol.

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#101515 - 08/03/07 11:36 PM Re: Rope pully system. [Re: MichaelJ]
RobertRogers Offline
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Interesting, did you create this video?
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#101518 - 08/03/07 11:50 PM Re: Rope pully system. [Re: MichaelJ]
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I would like to see this with a vehicle that is really stuck, not rolling on pavement. I suspect that either the rope will break, or the person will not have the horsepower to pull the vehicle out of the mud...
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#101541 - 08/04/07 02:27 AM Re: Rope pully system. [Re: MichaelJ]
kevingg Offline
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I have 100' of 3/8 rope ($12 home depot) in my car for the same reason; but also have 4 small pulleys sized for the 3/8 rope (another few bucks, same aisle in home depot). incorporating the pulleys creates a block and tackle setup and reduces friction dramatically. With 4 pulley's one can transfer 8x the power of tugging a single rope. Add more pulleys = more power (but need more rope to move object the same distance). I've used this method in the woods to drag huge logs around. Pulling the van out of a mud hole would be simple. Of course one could always buy a come-along, but they are not as fun!

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#101543 - 08/04/07 03:15 AM Re: Rope pully system. [Re: MichaelJ]
Chris Kavanaugh Offline
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Theres a US miltary manual on vehicle extraction with all manner of tricks.

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#101549 - 08/04/07 04:11 AM Re: Rope pully system. [Re: Chris Kavanaugh]
Todd W Offline
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Originally Posted By: Chris Kavanaugh
Theres a US miltary manual on vehicle extraction with all manner of tricks.


They did a "Dirty Jobs" on this too, it was amazing! They pulled a hummer up a sandy hill, and it was even stuck too.

Crazy what you can do with rope and pulleys.

-Todd
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