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#100544 - 07/23/07 06:54 PM Keep it on your person
Susan Offline
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It was pointed out on the 'Evacuation' thread that if you forget to take your BOB, or simply are unable to take it for some reason, you're dependent on what you're carrying on your person.

This was brought home to me last night.

Women especially, are used to carrying all their important 'stuff' in their purse. No purse, no stuff.

Yesterday morning, in broad daylight, a woman down the street disappeared. Her car was parked in the front yard (not in the driveway), the driver's door was wide open, her purse, keys, cellphone, dog and coffee were in the car.

She didn't have a thing to work with, no weapon, no tool, nothing useful.

Sue, hoping for the best, but expecting the worst

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#100550 - 07/23/07 07:14 PM Re: Keep it on your person [Re: Susan]
Frank2135 Offline
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Not to play Sherlock Holmes via internet, but: the door was open and the dog stayed in the car? Unless it was tied, doesn't that suggest the owner told it to stay or something to that effect?


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#100566 - 07/23/07 10:02 PM Re: Keep it on your person [Re: Frank2135]
JohnN Offline
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Loc: Seattle, WA

I don't think it's clear. The dog could be behind one of those pet gates or tied in, or scared/cowering. Not all dogs react the same way. It could have gotten out and returned to the car later.

I'm with Susan. It smells like someone grabbed her.

-john

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#100569 - 07/23/07 10:22 PM Re: Keep it on your person [Re: JohnN]
Russ Offline
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Agree. While I agree with always having a few tools on my person, it may not have mattered in this situation.

Sue,
Any more details available?
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#100570 - 07/23/07 10:47 PM Re: Keep it on your person [Re: Susan]
big_al Offline
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Loc: 20mi east of San Diego

It's a lot easyer for males to carry stuff on our person than females. Unless they happen to be in a situation where they can dress in slacks.

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#100571 - 07/23/07 10:47 PM Re: Keep it on your person [Re: Russ]
JohnN Offline
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Unfortunately, it looks like her body was found.

-john

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#100573 - 07/23/07 10:52 PM Re: Keep it on your person
Eugene Offline
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Registered: 12/26/02
Posts: 2997
Originally Posted By: Susan
Not to play Sherlock Holmes via internet, but: the door was open and the dog stayed in the car? Unless it was tied, doesn't that suggest the owner told it to stay or something to that effect?


Frank2135


My uncles dog loved to go places with him all he had to do was open the door of his truck and the dog would come running and jump in and wait there until it was time to go. My uncle could spend as much time as he needed loading things up and the dog would just sit there, some of them are like that.

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#100575 - 07/23/07 11:04 PM Re: Keep it on your person [Re: JohnN]
OldBaldGuy Offline
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I was just getting ready to ask where the "ex" was, but now we know. Sad story, often repeated...
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#100576 - 07/23/07 11:06 PM Re: Keep it on your person [Re: Susan]
OldBaldGuy Offline
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As far as carrying your "stuff" goes, my co-"workers" call me Pockets (from Hatari) thanks to my fondness for pants with cargo pockets. You can put a lot of stuff in those things...
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#100596 - 07/24/07 02:35 AM Re: Keep it on your person [Re: JohnN]
ironraven Offline
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They keys and the purse told me that, forget the dog. frown

Civilization. BAH!
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#100632 - 07/24/07 02:13 PM Re: Keep it on your person [Re: Eugene]
Frank2135 Offline
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My dog loves to ride in the car and will wait for me with the doors open...as long as I'm in sight. When I walk around the corner, she jumps out and follows me. If I tell her to stay, she does (for a while).

What I was leading up to that the dog staying suggested to me that whatever happened and whoever was involved, it was someone with a degree of control over the dog.

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#100835 - 07/26/07 11:54 AM Re: Keep it on your person [Re: ironraven]
WillCAD Offline
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Registered: 06/29/07
Posts: 27
Loc: Baltimore, MD, USA
Originally Posted By: ironraven
They keys and the purse told me that, forget the dog. frown

Civilization. BAH!


Living in a civilized society doesn't preclude the existence of violent and deviant people.

Sad story. I hope the person responsible is introduced to Old Sparky.
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#100915 - 07/27/07 03:53 AM Re: Keep it on your person [Re: Susan]
Susan Offline
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Loc: W. WA
Many people assume that humankind is triple-dipped in civilization. Actually, the veneer is so thin that there really isn't much difference between us now and ancient Rome. If any.

Her hubby has pleaded guilty to murder. I'd like to be a fly on the wall when he explains to his 15-yr-old daughter how he just HAD to kill her mother. A#$H@&$!!!

Sue

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#100946 - 07/27/07 03:46 PM Re: Keep it on your person [Re: Susan]
frenchy Offline
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Registered: 12/18/02
Posts: 1320
Loc: France
At least, he didn't kill the kid !!
In France, we recently had two guys who killed their kids :
- in one case, he did this after killing s.o. else
- in another case, he just killed them, for no apparent reason except he was about to divorce or had just divorced ...
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