+1 on the smackdown of Seagull.

I've rolled and thrown with a few good judoka, and as long as they practice enough newaza (ground-fighting) they are legit in a scrap.

As Rickson Gracie (he's a GREAT grappler, decent mixed martial artist) said in my presence when asked about aikido (S. Seagull's art):"It's....nice." He wasn't being complimentary.



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