You ever actually made a trap trigger and then caught anything with it... how about starting a fire with a bow drill??? I've done the bow drill, and tried the traps... many times... and with my rate of success, I'll stick with yoyos (the common name for these automatic reels) and Conibears (a very effective trap). By the way, if you haven't tried any of the above... what are you waiting for... TEOTWAWKI???

Troy