Vince, I've sent you a PM in response detailing some of the civil rights that have been damaged by this administration. Not wanting to hijack this forum with a bunch of political bickering unrelated to this forums purpose, if you want to reply, please send a PM.

As for what Flipper said, I get tired of people insinuating your somehow a traitor or crybabby when you point out foolishness. If you feel better that mothers and seniors are having their kitting needels confisicated at the security counter good for you. Im not going to bother trying to convince you that these steps are probably little more than the eye candy appearance of security. Domestic security lies with good international policy and strong but fair laws more than it does with making sure toothpicks are safely stowed in the aft compartment. Again though, if you want to talk politics I would be happy to if we do it with PMs rather than on the board proper.