Originally Posted By: ireckon
The UK is having these widespread riots because of the ingrained belief that using non-lethal force on violent criminals is always appropriate.
That's not true. Our police can and do use lethal force on criminals. It's just that when they do so, it needs to be justified. The trigger of these riots was bad PR following such an incident. (Which may have been justified; it's too early to say. There were early reports that one policeman had been shot, and would have died had the bullet not hit his radio. Forensic evidence showed that the bullet came from a police gun, and the criminal appears not to have fired a shot. Investigations are on-going. It doesn't help that the police have a history of cover-ups after such incidents, and the public don't automatically believe the police account.)

These riots got out of control largely because the police weren't prepared for them, because we've not had anything like it for a generation. It's probably a good thing that the rioters weren't armed with guns.

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Based on the home invasion cases I've read, the UK justice system fights back pretty hard against homeowners who have the audacity to protect themselves from home invaders, robbers, murderers and rapists.
Homeowners can legally use lethal force defensively in the UK. This has been tested in the courts time after time. What we can't do is chase a burglar down the street and then shoot him in the back.
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