Jim..i put the stoves on a kitchen scale,the stoves are 10oz and the windscreen/pot holders are 6oz!..i know over at CCS someone has plans for making a lightweight one.i got small hinges but no aluminum for one i want to make.by the way the stove on the left of my photo is a "real" Borde made by the Swiss in Zurich and the right made in Kilchberg Switzerland by Norbert Bader.except for the filler end they are the same