Mike,
Yep - luckly, as this is like my 3rd stone, I know that the pain being intermitant and moving down is a "good thing" - and I know to get to the ER if it gets bad. This one seems like it will pass. That said, I have an IVP Tuesday to make sure things are working

The last one was cylindrical in shape, 5mm x 20mm. It stuck in a bad spot, but was letting fluid around it, so they waited for it to move about 3 inchs down - then they were able to go in with a laser and break it up. Hurt like heck for 2 days afterwards, but I was happy to have it done, as one 30 minute attack was worse than those 2 days

Oh - and I can't decide which is worse - Gall stones, or kidney stones. I've had both, both are BAD, just different.

My take on getting one in the woods - this is a vaild time to call for a Medivac if you can - and if you do have opiates, and the person has no know problems with them, it would be a good thing (my urologist handed me a srcipt after the surgery, said 'fill this, keep it on the shelf, in case you get another - take and call me')