Yeah, that's why I say there are instances where I would use my sythetic bag. Unfortunatly I am not lucky enough to get out for anything but a few days, it's not terribly cold and I don't have to worry about wetting my down bag out. I doubt my montbell will ever be in much danger. I don't plan on living here forever so who knows, I might be a wiggy sleeper some day. There was a time when I thought I would never have a down bag!