Hi Hacksaw,

It can be difficult getting the right balance between what would be called essential items and what would be nice to carry for additional comfort in a survival situation. An example would a piece of kit such as the tent. Now many would consider this piece of kit to be in the 'Camping' arena and not strictly a 'Survival' piece of kit. This could be because the military don't generally issue tents as a piece of survival gear. But then when have the military ever known anything about camping and being comfortable at the same time. Being comfortable is also essential in a survival situation, something that military survival courses don't really want to acknowledge. The military top brass then wonder why so many of their troops are suffering cold weather injuries during combat operations.

I guess it all depends on the weather conditions and terrain you are expecting to encounter when deciding to include a tent in a Survival kit or BOB. For Example, in a survival situation is it more prudent to carry an additional couple of pounds over the distances you are expecting to cover or expending a great deal of time and energy creating a A frame shelter every evening (if of course the materials are even available). There is nothing wrong at all by including a good tent, stove and sleeping bag system in your pack despite what other survival experts say in their publications. I think you're on the right road with your list, all that is required is to reduce the duplication to reduce the weight of your pack. This will happen naturally when you become confident that your primary individual kit items begin to display reliability out in the wilderness and a fall back kit item isn't required for the insurance or the peace of mind.

Here is a list of my winter kit list (just under 40lbs being useful down to about -10C for 3-4 days)




Outdoor Trekking List for 3-4-Season

Carrying System
Rucksack Lowe Alpine Contour Crossbow 50 1400 3 5/16
Rucksack Water System Platipus 1.8 110 4/16
Total 1510 3 5/16
Tent System
Tent Lightwave ZR0 Cylq with Scandium Poles 1300 2 14/16
Misc Items Alpkit Trekking Poles 300 11/16
Total 1600 3 8/16

Sleeping System
Sleeping Bag Alpkit 200 combined with the Alpkit Phantom 450 1
Sleeping Mat Exped Downmat 9 Air Mattress 1090 2 6/16
Sleeping Bag Liner LiveVenture Silk 120 4/16
Pillow Thermarest pillow/stuff sac 50 2/16
Bivi Bag NA 0 0
Total 1710 3 12/16

Cooking System and Water Purifying System
Stove Optimus Crux 90 3/16
Fuel Bottle / Misc Adaptors NA 0 0
Cooking Pot Alpkit Mytimug 127 4/16
Fry Pan NA 0 0
Kettle Primus Tea/Coffee Kettle 160 6/16
Double Walled Mug Double Walled Ti Mug 450ml Snow Peak 116 4/16
Water Bottle / Carrier Sigg Aluminium 1 litre + Insulated Cover 160 6/16
Thermal Flask Thermos 500ml 300 11/16
Misc Items 1 Firesteel + Waterproof matches + Emergency Esbit Tabs + Tinder + Silva Lighter 80 3/16
Knife Helle Odel 124 4/16
Fork Spoon Folding titanium Spork + Wooden Spoon with shortened handle 50 2/16
Windshield Aluminium Folded 60 2/16
Water Treatment Steripen with 4 lithium AA cells 200 7/16
Total 1467 3 4/16


Clothing System
Waterproof Shell
WS Jacket Berghaus Goretex XCR 800 1 12/16
WS Overtrousers Sprayway Hydrolite Over Trousers 280 10/16
WS Hat Berghaus Goretex XCR + Fleecy Liner 90 3/16
WS Gaiters Goretex 250 9/16
WS Socks Gore Bikeware Goretex 80 3/16
WS Gloves Outdoor Design Winterflex Guide Gloves 200 7/16
1700 3 12/16
Thermal Clothing Layering System Dry Change
Thermal Layer 0 0
Thermal Jacket (Soft Shell) Marmot Windstopper 1/2 Zip pullover 430 15/16
Thermal Base Layer Howies Merino Wool Long John 120 4/16
Thermal Gloves Wollen Mits 120 4/16
Socks Dry Change Woolen/Silk Socks Thurlo 100 4/16
Thermal Hat Dry Change Outdoor Designs Windstopper 50 2/16
Thermal Down Jacket Dry Change Alpkit Fantom 800 1 12/16
Trousers Dry Change Columbia Sportsware OmniDry 220 8/16
Teeshirt Dry Change Howick Luxury Blend Crew Neck Jumper (70% Merino Wool/30% Silk) 200 7/16
Dry Sack for Dry Change Outdoor Designs Medium 80 3/16
2120 4 11/16
Clothing Total 3820 8 7/16

Lighting System
Head Torch 0 0
General Purpose Torch Fenix L2D White Cree 3Watt LED + Head Band with 2 Lithium AA Cells + Diffuser 125 4/16
Spare Batteries NA 0 0
Solar Charger NA 0 0
Battery Charger NA 0 0
Total 125 4/16

Navigation
Compass Silva Ranger 3 + Spare Button Compass kept in survival case 40 1/16
Small Notepad Write in Rain 50 2/16
Pen Fisher Space Pen 50 2/16
Map OS map of Area 75 3/16
Map Case Ortlieb Waterproof 100 4/16
Total 315 11/16

Personal Hygeine Kit
Toothbrush + Toothpaste + Washcloth
Soap and Lightweight Towel and shaving kit. 175 6/16

First Aid Kit
LifeVenture + Additional Items 200 7/16

Additional Items
Camera Lightweight Digital 10.2MP with Lifeventure Case 180 6/16
Sunglasses and Case Bolle with Berghaus case 100 4/16
Mobile Phone Seimens A65 80 3/16
GPS Garmin Etrex Camo 200 7/16
Multitool Leatherman Charge Ti 260 9/16
Total 820

Consumables Number of Days 3

Rations 900 gms / Day 900 2
Total Food 2700 5 15/16
Fuel IsoButane/Propane Gas Cartridge 450 gms 645 1 7/16
Water 1.8 Litres 1800 3 15/16


Total Weight (kg) 17.147

Total Weight (Ibs) 37.72 37 12/16