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#88006 - 03/11/07 03:55 AM Re: How long would it last? [Re: Blacktop]
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#88864 - 03/20/07 05:34 AM Re: How long would it last? [Re: raydarkhorse]
Hike4Fun Offline
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Registered: 06/01/06
Posts: 80
Many of our facilities are more centralized,
all the time, as out big corporations merge,
petroleum and chemical plants are expanded
rather than new plants built. Large buildings
like the Twin Towers have been built.

The only decentralizing, that I know of, was
20 years ago, NYC financial computers were
moved out of the City.

I am not an expert or even an active observer
of the above, so others probably know many more
specifics than I do. Its just my casual observation.

Eight years ago, most would not believe that
a big building would be brought down or that
New Orleans would be flooded. Because, though
experts say it could happen, it probably would
have happened, by now, if it could have happened.
Faulty Thinking, yes, but a prevailing thought process.

Illegals streaming in from Mexico and large illegal
populations in every city, make it easier for bad guys
to hide out: a huge security problem that can distract
a lot of our agents. It is hard for me to imagine that
Homeland Security has a handle on this, much less,
threats that come into our country from other ways.

So now we have to admit that attacks against Multiple
Cities and in Multiple Ways, could happen. The damage
would be compounded, because relief efforts would be
slow and weak.

The economic impacts (high unemployment and low profits)
could last for years. Regretfully, large financial
institutions would have to foreclose on large amounts of
real estate, that had been owned by the middle class,
an effect that would last for decades.







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#88973 - 03/21/07 03:12 AM Re: How long would it last? [Re: raydarkhorse]
Bugman37 Offline
journeyman

Registered: 08/03/04
Posts: 66
Sorry, but you are advocating a self sufficient person. You're thinking that the government will come "bail you out". That's the problem with this country. Most people depend on the government. Our founding fathers are turning over in their graves. I really wonder what would happen if this country had another depression. God help us, because the people in this country could not rely on themselves.

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#89207 - 03/23/07 04:48 AM Re: How long would it last? [Re: raydarkhorse]
hilary155 Offline
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Registered: 01/10/06
Posts: 17
Hello.

Obviously preparedness means being prepared. I think organizing locally with your neighbors is 1000 times more important than Building a bunker and trying to ride out chaos. Whatever will come, we are much more likely to survive it if we organize locally and block FEMA when they try to take over our town. Organize volunteer first response networks. Store the tools needed to make the tools. We have shipped our manufacturing infrastructure to China. Could we honestly build machine tools again if we had too?

How long? That depends greatly on how well prepared we are. Society exists at the local level. We may observe global events, but most of us spend most of our lives within a few miles of our work place and our home.

If cost is the limiting factor, and not space, then livestock grainseed is great option. Buy bulk livestock grainseed, like millet, oats, wheat, buckwheat, corn.... and a grain grinder. Stock up on iodized salt.

How long? maybe forever. Humpty Dumpty may not survive the trip to the hospital.

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#93755 - 05/06/07 12:56 AM Re: How long would it last? [Re: raydarkhorse]
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Registered: 08/14/06
Posts: 43
Loc: In the woods of Oregon.
At this time we have to many fires going on at the same time... what with the economy, war, illegals and many others.

It will 100 times worse than in 1929 because we always had a recovering industry and economy but now we have NOTHING... I really expect a civil war.

We will be a third class country and will have to start from home base.

I can see Russia, China and India coming to our aid.
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