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#89697 - 03/28/07 04:31 PM Stainless Steel 32oz water bottle
falcon5000 Offline
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I was wondering if anybody has tried one of these stainless steel 32 oz bottles instead of the nalgine bottles. I was thinking of upgrading the bottle/cup and going with a bottle by itself so I can carry water,boil water,use it as an emergency stove to boil soup or what have you, or even put a rock in it and tye a string to the loop in the lid and make a bear bell out of it. I mean you could get creative and polish the bottom for a signal mirror or start a fire with it ( http://wildwoodsurvival.com/survival/fire/cokeandchocolatebar/index.html ) I mean theres a lot of potentials. I know the Sig bottles have a coating in them to keep citric acid from messing them up, but as far as I know, these are steral.


Stainless steel Bottle
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#89699 - 03/28/07 04:52 PM Re: Stainless Steel 32oz water bottle [Re: falcon5000]
Paul810 Offline
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I've been waiting for someone to put out a Nalgene style metal bottle that I can boil water in. That seems to be exactly what I'm looking for. It would mean I wouldn't have to carry a metal cup in addition to a Nalgene bottle.

One just has to remember to remove the plastic cap/top or it might melt. smile

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#89702 - 03/28/07 05:12 PM Re: Stainless Steel 32oz water bottle [Re: Paul810]
dougwalkabout Offline
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The idea is excellent, although I would miss the versatility of the Nalgene bottle with cup.

I'd want to handle one before I would trust it.

Off the top of my head:
- Is the bottom thick enough to withstand some abuse?
- How well-formed are the threads (pressed or machined)?
- Are the threads compatible with Nalgene lids (for screw-on water filters)?
- Does the top reliably seal? Many cheap bottles look good, but leak.
- Can the top be removed entirely (for cooking)?
- Is there a way to attach some wire for over-the-fire use? The Sigg bottles have a neck that's perfect for this.

If someone buys one, a field review and close-up photos would be appreciated.

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#89704 - 03/28/07 05:18 PM Re: Stainless Steel 32oz water bottle [Re: falcon5000]
Susan Offline
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Their site doesn't want to overload you with information, does it?

May I assume it's insulated? How wide is the neck? I think I've seen it before, but I have dialup, and I'm not going to wade through all their retailers to get info on it.

Sue

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#89705 - 03/28/07 05:19 PM Re: Stainless Steel 32oz water bottle [Re: Paul810]
falcon5000 Offline
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Paul810, I just noticed on there FAQ http://www.guyotdesigns.com/site/htm/bottles_faq.html

Are the bottles insulated?
Our double wall bottles will insulate your hot or cold beverage very well.

If this is the case, then a fire would be out of the question and this thing would be useless, hence the search continues....
I may try to e-mail them and see if they have a non insulated version and see if I can get any specs.
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#89707 - 03/28/07 05:22 PM Re: Stainless Steel 32oz water bottle [Re: falcon5000]
falcon5000 Offline
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Susan, I think your right, there insulated frown and dougwalkabout there's got to be someone out there that sells one somewhere you'd think, that is non insulated and non treated like the Sigs
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#89711 - 03/28/07 05:37 PM Re: Stainless Steel 32oz water bottle [Re: falcon5000]
Schwert Offline
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Registered: 03/13/02
Posts: 905
Loc: Seattle, Washington
Why don't you try the Kleen Kanteen?



http://www.kleankanteen.com/2products/products.html

Stainless single wall in 12, 18, 27 or 40oz versions. Not inexpensive.


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#89719 - 03/28/07 07:27 PM Re: Stainless Steel 32oz water bottle [Re: Schwert]
Paul810 Offline
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They make both double wall and single wall versions. When you look at the website's source code it lists the bottles as:

"Standard 38oz Single Wall"
"Shorty 24oz Single Wall"
"Commuter 24oz Single Wall"
"Backpacker 32oz Single Wall"

Though, Falcon please still shoot them an e-mail to make sure they aren't coated.


Originally Posted By: Schwert
Why don't you try the Kleen Kanteen?


That looks good as well, but I would prefer it to have a standard Nalgene style top.

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#89737 - 03/28/07 10:12 PM Re: Stainless Steel 32oz water bottle [Re: Paul810]
MDinana Offline
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Registered: 03/08/07
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Loc: Deep south... Carolina
why not just use MSR fuel bottles? When you buy them, they're clean. Yeah, small neck is a problem, but as long as you label it clearly, it should (I would think) be able to be used over flames.
Just make sure the bottle cools before you handle it.

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#89758 - 03/29/07 02:47 AM Re: Stainless Steel 32oz water bottle [Re: MDinana]
dougwalkabout Offline
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Well, well, well! I stopped in at my favourite mountain shop today and, as luck would have it, these bottles had just been put on the shelves. So, I can give you my impressions FWIW.

The picture at the top of the thread is the "Backpacker" model. 32 ounce capacity. Single wall construction.

Price: more than twice that of a Nalgene Lexan bottle. (Ouch.)

To answer my own questions:

- Is the bottom thick enough to withstand some abuse?

Yes, absolutely. This thing is stoutly built, and would serve a long time. In fact, it's a lot heavier than I would like. The label says 12.3 ounces -- empty! I bet my Lexan Nalgene and canteen cup together are lighter.

- How well-formed are the threads (pressed or machined)?

Threads are machined, deep, and heavy duty. They would probably last forever.

- Are the threads compatible with Nalgene lids (for screw-on water filters)?

Yes, according to the label, they are compatible with screw-on water filters. I didn't actually try it out with Nalgene lids (no way to tell if it would seal).

- Does the top reliably seal? Many cheap bottles look good, but leak.

I didn't test it with water, but the top is very heavy-duty in look and feel, and inspires confidence. This is not a cheap knock-off item in any way.

- Can the top be removed entirely (for cooking)?

Yes. I didn't try, but it's held on with heavy cord. You may have to reattach it with your own paracord. I wasn't about to break it in the store.

- Is there a way to attach some wire for over-the-fire use? The Sigg bottles have a neck that's perfect for this.

There's a good deep lip below the threads that would accommodate several wraps of heavy wire. No problem there.

Would I trust one? Yes, I think so.

I would also want to hire a Sherpa to carry the thing for me.

Cheers,
Doug

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