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#80311 - 12/15/06 03:11 AM USFS in Oregon
OldBaldGuy Offline
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The Seattle evening news just reported that, re the Kim incident, the USFS, which had originally reported that the road they drove had been closed, and that vandals had cut the lock, now states that the gate had never been closed and locked. Sounds like there was some CYA going on...
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#80312 - 12/15/06 03:59 AM Re: USFS in Oregon
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When they first reported that the gate had been opened by vandals, I remember thinking that it sounded like a CYA excuse. If this turns out to be true, it will not surprise me.

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#80313 - 12/15/06 04:21 AM Re: USFS in Oregon
Dan Offline
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CYA?

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#80314 - 12/15/06 04:22 AM Re: USFS in Oregon
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#80315 - 12/15/06 05:10 AM Re: USFS in Oregon
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My thoughts exactly. Everyone is checking their six.

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#80316 - 12/15/06 01:46 PM Re: USFS in Oregon
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hehe. We have a in house written backup program at work that's called CYA = Copy Your Assets <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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#80317 - 12/15/06 01:56 PM Re: USFS in Oregon
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My parents live on a famr in WV, they are 7 miles from the nearest town and 15 miles from a town big enough to have a stop light. They have a gated road near their house which goes straight of the side of the mountian to where the rest of the farm is on top that mountain. That gate has been closed and posted private, no trespassing and people will drive right up to it and open it and drive up there. Half the time they get stick because the road is so steep. So even a marked and gated road is nothing to people anymore, it wouldn't surpirse me if someone such as the Kims would come upon a closed gate and open it and drive on through.

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#80318 - 12/15/06 03:30 PM Re: USFS in Oregon
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So even a marked and gated road is nothing to people anymore, it wouldn't surpirse me if someone such as the Kims would come upon a closed gate and open it and drive on through.
I doubt it. In your case, it was people who wanted to get to the top of the mountain. Their destination was beyond the gate, and that was likely the only way up.

In the Kim's instance, however, I doubt that they were going sighseeing in the dark up poorly-maintained roads. It is more likely that they thought that the route was a short-cut. Had the roads been closed, they would have probably just gone around.
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#80319 - 12/15/06 03:38 PM Re: USFS in Oregon
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It wasn't to get to their destination, this road isn't on any maps and ends on the top of the mountain.
Its usually a certian religious group looking for houses to witness to. But they compeltely ignore the sign that says private drive no trespassing so even though this road is closed. I could see the same thing happening in a situation such as this, someone thinks they need to go through a gate that says road closed so they ignore the sign/warning and go through.

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#80320 - 12/15/06 03:47 PM Re: USFS in Oregon
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I find it mildly annoying that there is even a need for anyone to CYA in this situation. It's not like the Forest Service forced the Kim's to drive up that road. I'll bet some lawyer is already dialing their number. Too bad.

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