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#7666 - 07/21/02 02:41 AM Stripper clips
Ade Offline
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Hello all,<br><br>Do any of the more "gunny" people here know if it's possible to machine a stripper clip slot into a Ruger MKII? I played with an old Springfield last week and learned to love the feature. I can't afford a Springfield (who can these days? Hell, I can't afford a BB gun right now...), but I have plans to buy a Ruger rifle eventually. Thanks in advance.<br><br>Take care,<br><br>Andy

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#7667 - 07/21/02 04:40 AM Re: Stripper clips
Chris Kavanaugh Offline
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Ade, I have used several mausers with the stripper clip bridge in both military and sporterized configurations. It is a nice feature that lost favor with scope use. It would be extremely difficult to mill a Ruger. There isn't a lot of material to stabilise the stripper ( which often were very different with each model inspite of the near universal headcase of the 8x57-.30-06 cartridge family) and it would certainly destroy all warranties and resale value. You could buy a clean surplus mauser and sporterize it, or seek an older custom sporter. Either route can easily cost as much , if not more than a off the shelf Ruger. Military chamberings are every bit as efffective, but cost of ammunition can be expensive. The few F.N. and Columbian .30-06 service rifles are very expensive. The 7x57 mauser can be found with an excellent supply of ammunition. I've owned both. A timney trigger and Lyman reciever peep site made for extremely accurate and robust field rifles.

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#7668 - 07/21/02 05:43 AM Re: Stripper clips
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Registered: 12/10/01
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Loc: Upper Mississippi River Valley...
Andy,<br><br>Hmmm... yeah, what Chris said. M96 Swedes are pretty cheap and they work great with stripper clips - and turn into nifty Scout Rifles. <br><br>The only MkII I have is a heavy bbl in .223, but I doubt that the action is significantly different: No. The bolt stop is such that the face of the bolt is slightly protruding from the bridge when it's fully retracted.<br><br>I also checked one of my M77 (originals) and it might actually be possible - but just barely, and it would probably take out too much of the factory 'scope mount to leave it functional.<br><br>I *think* I could make one as a separate piece and attach it - two different ways appear feasible. Of course, a conventional 'scope mounting would take the use of stripper clips out.<br><br>Sorry to bear the bad tidings...<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Tom<br><br>PS - the MkII that I have is super super accurate - well, heck, all my M77s are - but this one is eye-opening. It at LEAST shoots with the Remington M700s in the same caliber - maybe even better.

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#7669 - 07/21/02 07:25 AM Re: Stripper clips
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Registered: 01/17/02
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Andy,<br><br>I don't have any definite knowledge but I do like the idea of adapting your prospective bolt gun to stripper clips. Let me further qualify this advice (or is grand speculation) by noting that I don't have any bolt actions that are usable with stripper clips or Ruger bolt actions for that matter. However, I wonder if it would be possible to devise a fixture that would hold the stripper clips and clamp onto the scope mounting indentations on the Ruger action. In fact it seems as if something like a one-piece scope base, if any are made for that model, could be adapted to hold stripper clips for charging the gun. I assume that someone makes a one-piece scope base, for some reason, for Ruger bolt actions. Furthermore you might even be able to use say a side mount to scope the gun if you wish. Conceivably such a glorified stripper clip holder could easily grow high enough to block your view of the metalic sights.<br><br>Good luck,<br><br>John<br><br>

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#7670 - 07/21/02 10:13 AM Re: Stripper clips
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I really doubt a gunsmith would recommend this. It would entail cutting a hole in an area which probably would affect the strength of the receiver mechanism/bolt assembly. The only rifles I'm familiar with that have stripper clips are particularly robust above the magazine. I also can't help think about the problems with Jungle Enfields. These were made smaller and lighter by the manufacturer making modest cuts into various "unimportant" metal on a standard Enflied. It resulted in a weapond which was lighter, but of very suspect accuracy. I know people who bought these very cheap recently from Dunhams and found that they could not be reliably sighted in, even when bolted down, the mechanics of the weapon were just too dynamic. The best theory was that there was simply too much flex.<br><br>I would also second the motion about just buying a surplus rifle. A good Mauser 48/48A can be purchased for about $100. Surplus ammunition is very cheap and the rifle has fine accuracy. 8mm is basically useless for small game, but the cost is cheaper than a good quality BB gun.

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#7671 - 07/21/02 04:20 PM Re: Stripper clips
Chris Kavanaugh Offline
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The jungle carbines have two cuts at the barrel/receiver junction. This is what causes the wandering zero. If you reload, most any centerfire can workup "squib" loads of a light lead bullet with a modest charge good for 25 yards. Just don't grab a squib instead of a RWS 196 grain TUG when the moose charges!

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#7672 - 07/21/02 06:26 PM Re: Stripper clips
Anonymous
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Andy,<br><br>with the certainty of increasing my reputation as a total idiot, (but enthusiastic learner),,,what is a stripper clip and what is its function? Thanks<br><br>


Edited by robb (07/21/02 06:31 PM)

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#7673 - 07/21/02 07:18 PM Re: Stripper clips
Chris Kavanaugh Offline
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Robb, strippers are sheet steel or soft brass devises to hold individual cartridges in a collective row. They are then inserted into a milled slot in older rifles and some pistols. You then load the fixed magazine by pushing ( stripping) the cartridges down with your thumb. Many modern detachable magazines can be rapidly charged with a detachable stripper guide. These are the correct "clips" often erroneously confused with true cartridge magazines. They make for faster reloading and keeping ammunition organized.


Edited by Chris Kavanaugh (07/21/02 07:20 PM)

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#7674 - 07/21/02 08:11 PM Re: Stripper clips
Ade Offline
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Thanks to all who responded. I thought that might be the case, but it was worth a try.<br><br><br>Take care,<br><br>Andy

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#7675 - 07/21/02 08:16 PM Re: Stripper clips
Ade Offline
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Tom,<br><br>I had a semi-scout in mind, built on one of the Ruger short barrel, short actions. Your idea of using the scope mount to attach a slot is intriguing. Please think more about that and let me know what your thinking turns up.<br><br><br>Take care,<br><br>Andy<br>

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