Hey everybody. so in the near future im planning on getting a couple new knives. the sog pentagon, kdi law enforcment blade. for self defense and coolness. <img src="/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
but im deciding between the sog seal knife 2000 or the Gerber LMF II ASEK Survival Knife
both look good. ive seen them both handled the sog and thought it was a little heavy(but then again i thought my kabar was heavy but feels like nothing now with experience) and the sog seal 2000 felt very sturdy. i know the gerber has a sharpener and can be turned into a spear or used as a hammer if needed.
so my question is which would you pick the gerber or sog? have you read any reviews or heard any good or bad things about either knife?any help or anything would be very useful. thanks and God Bless.

Doug briefly reviewed LMF ASEK. (Scroll down to Gerber section).
Never heard anything bad said about SOG Seal series.

I've got a SealPup and I'm quite pleased with it. I've never seen a bad review on it either.

Suggestion: don't buy a knife for "coolness". (No one has ever defined coolness to my satisfaction.)
The idea of using a knife for civilion self-defense is pretty much a fantasy, unless you have a good deal of training and practice. Rather than just being robbed, flashing a blade could get you killed.
A handgun is one thing, a knife is something entirely differant.

"there is nothing so frightening as ignorance in action."

If those are your only two choices I would take take the Gerber because it was designed for survival. Many SOGs have very pointy tips that are waiting to snap.
As far as using your knife as a spear; never do this, instead sharpen the stick into a spear.

I would suggest considering an Ontario Rat series knife. These are very stury and sharp blades with a simple utilitarian design. I have a RAT 7 and it rocks. Beckers are good too but getting hard to find.
Also look at Doug's fixed blade; can't go wrong with Benchmade IMO.

Truer words were never spoken...

I had the Sog Seal 2000 knife. It's large, mean, and very capable knife! However, for my needs, it was too long and too heavy. Also, the finger groves were a bit shallow to my taste.

I'd look into the Sog Seal Pup Elite if I were you.

Definitely agree here -- forget the coolness factor -- flashing a knife in today's society will likely get you trouble instead of admiration.

If you are lucky you just get arrested, if you are really unlucky someone explains about bringing a knife to a gunfight...

I was always taught if you pull a knife and don’t know how to use it someone will take it away from you and use it on YOU…..

That can work with a gun too. That's why, if you aren't ready and willing to use one it is best to carry a small handgun with very small sights...

i dont plan to just bust out my knife anywhere and im not going to carry it wherever i go, i let my training and skills do the work. and i wont ever plan to get a gun ,for personal reasons.
and i shouldnt of used the word coolness. the deal is im considering entering law enforcment and well you get the picture. and i have had a little knife training with a uncle. sorry if i sound rude,cause im not. but thanks all for the suggestions.

plus im a pacifist. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> peace for me before fighting.

I had a friend who was a pacifist. He tried to steal my then girlfriend, a 'New Ager' who described herself as an altantean. I suppose they were a 'continent apart' which avoided unpleasantness on my part. I find it a little contradictory you embrace pacifism, yet seek out knives from the Soldier of Misfortune niche <img src="/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

yea but thats just me. i dont follow the rules of life. people of peace can have knives if they want. im not a knife freak i just have one true one for my bob. i wouldnt say i embrace pacifism as a religon,i just analyze diffent parts of society and create my own opinion and philosphy.i just prefer a peaceful situation before i have to engage in any fighting or a argument. im a philospher not a extreme pacifist.also a Catholic <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

btw i have decided which knife and i decided to go with.......neither <img src="/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />. i think i may have found something better. but ill keep that to myself. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

>and i wont ever plan to get a gun ,for personal reasons
>the deal is im considering entering law enforcment and well you
>get the picture

No I don't. With all due respect, if it were me I would look long and hard
at the profession before I went any further. Buying a knife is not the first step into law enforcement (or any step for that matter). You need to reconcile your dogma with your professional goals and a huge dose of reality vs. the visceral appeal of Rambo Toys.

The SEAL 2000 is a nice knife and will serve you well. Check out Doug's blades. They are under hyped.

Good luck, I hope you find what you are looking for.

Marc

"...i wont ever plan to get a gun ,for personal reasons..."
"...im considering entering law enforcment..."

I hate to break this to you, but law enforcement officers, at least in this country, carry guns. And sometimes have to use them. Where will your "personal reasons" fit in if you should ever be in a situation requiring the use deadly force???

If your forging your own blade like Rambeau or Tommy Lee in THE HUNTED get an audio recording of the Finnish National epic poem the Kalevala-that, and bandaids

haha no im not making my own blade, i wouldnt know the first place to start. i remeber that movie: the hunted it was a pretty good show.

with all do respect. i dont have a gun currently becuase of where im am now. i have had a major dose of reality more than anyone should ever have. and im between law enforcment and a few other majors i just havent fully decided,being a cop though is looking kinda dimmer for me cause of other reasons(im sorry i would say but i dont tell strangers thinsg like these.) im considering photography and other arts.but ill just stop there because were all heading off on a rabbit trail. and i just dont buy rambo knife toys , i learned that lesson as little kid. i look long and hard and anaylze and research all my equiment before buying. cause i would rather have a few good quality knives rather than 15 mediocre ones, and dougs knife is out of my price range at this day and moment cause im trying to save a few bucks these days. but it looked nice though. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />but ill definetly take another look at it again.

i just noticed to that now im a journeyman on here since i have 50 post. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Yay for me! haha

Save your pennies ... and a few dollars ... and take a real serious look at Doug's RSK Mk3 fixed blade knife.

http://www.equipped.org/rsk_mk3.htm

I've had mine for a few months now and it is well worth the price. It is specifically designed by Doug to be a medium weight/length survival/camp knife, and it has all the features I wanted in a fixed blade, plus it does have a real "cool factor".

The blade's finish is beautiful and the handle's finish matches the beauty in every respect. Note that the blade is larger and thicker than the lengendary Mk1 Rittergrip. While it is lightweight enough to be easily carried, it is still large and tough enough to do what's asked of it.

Ken