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#76481 - 11/10/06 02:45 AM Survivalists vs. "Preparationists"
wildman800 Offline
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Registered: 11/09/06
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Loc: La-USA
My relatives all refer to and/or describe me to others as a "Survivalist". "Survivalists" has attracted many disfavorable connotations. Since I don't yearn for TEOTWAWKI, and I do spend a great deal of time AWAY from home, and my family's safety and well-being is at the top of my "Priorities List", I have made and continue to improve on preparations against man made and/or natural disasters.
I will only accept the title of a "Preparationist" as an adequate description of who and what I am! Does this make sense to anybody else?

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#76482 - 11/10/06 07:10 AM Re: Survivalists vs. "Preparationists"
redflare Offline
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Registered: 12/25/05
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Loc: SF Bay Area, CA
Makes perfect sense.
I do a lot of hiking/camping, so most of my gear has dueal purpose. It can be used for long or short term "camping", like following an earthquake, for example. Of course a little extra gear for the rainy day doesn't hurt either <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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#76483 - 11/10/06 01:53 PM Re: Survivalists vs. "Preparationists"
norad45 Offline
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Registered: 07/01/04
Posts: 1506
Stay away from being labeled as an "ist" of any sort. Simply refer to yourself as "normal". <img src="/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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#76484 - 11/10/06 01:54 PM Re: Survivalists vs. "Preparationists"
ironraven Offline
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I have a similiar semantic device:

"Survivalists" want the world to "end", so they can have thier blaze of glory. "Survivors" want to be there when the "end" is over, and I want to be one of those people.
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#76485 - 11/10/06 02:14 PM Re: Survivalists vs. "Preparationists"
Malpaso Offline
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Registered: 09/12/05
Posts: 817
Loc: MA
I just tell people I'm a pack rat and a gear junkie.
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#76486 - 11/10/06 09:50 PM Re: Survivalists vs. "Preparationists"
Micah513 Offline
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Registered: 07/18/06
Posts: 178
Loc: Springfield, MO
Camper/Hiker/Hunter are all acceptable in our society. Saying you are preparing for anything immediately makes you a nut. I love the Wholesale Warehouses like Sam's Club because nobody looks at you funny for buying in bulk because they assume it is for your business.

My strategy is don't tell anyone in the real world as your door will the one they come knocking on. The only people that know I'm into preparing are on the internet.

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#76487 - 11/10/06 10:52 PM Re: Survivalists vs. "Preparationists"
Chisel Offline
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Registered: 12/05/05
Posts: 1562
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My strategy is don't tell anyone in the real world as your door will the one they come knocking on. The only people that know I'm into preparing are on the internet.


That makes two of us

I have tried to educate some people in the past.
But I have given up.

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#76488 - 11/10/06 11:41 PM Re: Survivalists vs. "Preparationists"
bubbajoe Offline
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Registered: 10/29/05
Posts: 72
Loc: PA. USA
Makes perfect sense! ... I'm refered to as the "survivalist" in my family also. When confronted by a PHRASECENSOREDPOSTERSHOULDKNOWBETTER.,and it always seems to be a confrontaion, i calmy ask them if theyhave auto insurance, home owners insurance, health insurance ? then i ask them WHY? they always say just in case .

then i answer with .. my extra food and supplies are my families life insurance for just in case. usualy shuts them up fast.

I can't control much in my life. I can't contol world affairs and who may want to harm us. i can't control the weather ,floods hurricanes,blizzards. there is so much in my life , in our lives that we have absolutely not control over. one of the few things we can control is prpeparing for as many things we can't control. we live in a very scary world. you can call me whatever you want. the one thing you can't call me is UN PREPARED

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#76489 - 11/12/06 11:37 PM Re: Survivalists vs. "Preparationists"
Fallshirmjager Offline
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Registered: 02/09/04
Posts: 42
I consider myself an "ant", of The Ant and the Grasshopper fable.

I'm just prepared a few winters farther along than anyone realizes.

My plan this winter is to fill my new ice house with harvested ice, and then I will be completely off the grid.

I usually make enough off hides from fall trapping to pay my property tax, and a few days of cash labor pays for a year of the few spices and luxury items, like wireless internet, I want.

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#76490 - 11/13/06 07:14 AM Re: Survivalists vs. "Preparationists"
Susan Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
Don't even try to label yourself for these people or anyone else. You aren't responsible for how or what they think. You can't control what they think. Don't try to justify yourself to mindless twits. It's a waste of time and energy.

You would be best off if you just closed your mouth, made your plans and kept them to yourself or your immediate family.

Sue

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#76491 - 11/13/06 03:20 PM Re: Survivalists vs. "Preparationists"
paramedicpete Offline
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Registered: 04/09/02
Posts: 1920
Loc: Frederick, Maryland
Tell them you would like to be referred to as an EPS = Emergency Preparation Specialist <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />.

Pete

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#76492 - 11/15/06 03:12 AM Re: Survivalists vs. "Preparationists"
CJK Offline
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Registered: 08/14/05
Posts: 601
Loc: FL, USA
We live in Florida......after Charley, Francis, Ivan, Jean, Wilma.......and oh ANY other one......no one asks why we do anything anymore.......

The inlaws use to think we were 'over the top'. Not any more..... since the hurricanes, things changed

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#76493 - 11/16/06 02:43 AM Re: Survivalists vs. "Preparationists"
samhain Offline
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Registered: 11/30/05
Posts: 598
Loc: Baton Rouge, Louisiana
They can call me whatever they want just as long as the don't call me late for dinner!!

Seriously, I find there is a great freedom in folks thinking I'm a little weird. It gives me a lot of freedom to experiment with different things (like walking around with a maxpedition fatboy in public all the time) and they just ignore it.

The folks in my neighborhood and at work are used to me being eccentric and some of my coworkers often pick at me being "preparedness man" and with the same breath will tell me "that's a good idea, I want to do that at my house!".

The folks that would have a problem with my preparedness hobby tend to leave me alone, and that's cool because I don't like them either.



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#76494 - 11/18/06 11:03 PM Re: Survivalists vs. "Preparationists"
Micah513 Offline
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Registered: 07/18/06
Posts: 178
Loc: Springfield, MO
Good point. After watching FEMA's response to Katrina you would think the odd balls in our society would be those who aren't into in preparing. But then we must factor in human nature which tends to believe things will never happen to them.

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#76495 - 11/25/06 07:58 PM Re: Survivalists vs. "Preparationists"
Jeanette_Isabelle Offline
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Registered: 11/13/06
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Loc: Nacogdoches, Texas
From reading these forums I see it pays to be socially invisible. In my congregation I have earned a reputation in first aid. Outside of my family, the house of G-d and friends, I don't stand out as prepared. All that people see are my purse and bottled water. Beyond that people will not know what I have in my car or home unless I some how draw attention to it.

As for a purse, a close equivalent for a guy would be a book bag or an urban style back pack.

Jeanette Isabelle
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#76496 - 11/26/06 12:21 AM Re: Survivalists vs. "Preparationists"
DBAGuy Offline
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Registered: 03/02/04
Posts: 165
Loc: Colorado Springs, CO
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It gives me a lot of freedom to experiment with different things (like walking around with a maxpedition fatboy in public all the time)


I have 2 sizes of these. They are my "man purses". Always packed with stuff i may need. Including some Nomex gloves.
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#76497 - 11/26/06 01:18 AM Re: Survivalists vs. "Preparationists"
norad45 Offline
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Outside of my family, the house of G-d and friends, I don't stand out as prepared


Everybody can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think at this website you can say "God" without being censored, as long as you don't go all preachy on people. At least that's the way we've always played it... <img src="/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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#76498 - 11/26/06 01:29 AM Re: Survivalists vs. "Preparationists"
Jeanette_Isabelle Offline
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Registered: 11/13/06
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Loc: Nacogdoches, Texas
In some beliefs people spell His Name with a dash or an underscore out of reverence.

Jeanette Isabelle
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#76499 - 11/26/06 01:32 AM Re: Survivalists vs. "Preparationists"
norad45 Offline
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In some beliefs people spell His Name with a dash or an underscore out of reverence.

Fair enough. I did not want you to think you had to here.

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