I'm a big boy, too, Doug, and I agree with Chris. <br>If I want to know where a product's made, I'll ask. We here should be about how a product functions, how to use it, and how it stands up to the rigors of use.<br>Origin does matter, but only as one of many factors. I have been trying to avoid Chinese made products recently (try doing THAT at a Wal-Mart...!.), but that is my choice.<br>There's my two cents.<br><br> ......CLIFF<br><br>