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#67845 - 06/21/06 05:28 PM Re: Bennett's Expedient Survival Tin
WILD_WEASEL Offline
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Loc: Afghanistan
I do a great deal of international travel and always pack this kit in my checked baggage, since the airlines consider matches to be contraband; Iíve removed them for that reason. As for the duct-tape Iíve never seen a need, but I may consider adding a couple sheets of rip stop nylon tape which I have used on several occasions to repair rips in my down sleeping bag and parka. In fact this kit is coming due for replacement of dated items and Iíll add the rip stop tape then.
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#67846 - 06/22/06 03:03 PM Re: Bennett's Expedient Survival Tin
Craig Offline


Registered: 11/13/01
Posts: 1784
Loc: Collegeville, PA, USA
Quote:
the airlines consider matches to be contraband


Okay, now I've heard everything.

Would someone mind explaining this boondoggle to me?

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#67847 - 06/22/06 03:27 PM Re: Bennett's Expedient Survival Tin
Malpaso Offline
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Registered: 09/12/05
Posts: 817
Loc: MA
The shoebomber tried using matches.
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#67848 - 06/22/06 04:54 PM Re: Bennett's Expedient Survival Tin
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Registered: 11/13/01
Posts: 1784
Loc: Collegeville, PA, USA
That would explain their being classified as munitions, but not as contraband.

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#67849 - 06/22/06 06:00 PM Re: Bennett's Expedient Survival Tin
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Registered: 04/09/02
Posts: 1920
Loc: Frederick, Maryland
You are allowed up to 4 books of strike-on-the-book (safety) matches on your person.

Pre-filled lighters (Bics) (allowed in checked-luuge if in an approved DOT container), strike anywhere matches or any strike-on-the-book (safety) matches are not permitted anywhere (check-in or carry-on).

TSA

Go to the phohibited (and permitted) link, see page 5 Flammable Items (almost at the bottom of the page)

Pete

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#67850 - 06/22/06 06:07 PM Re: Bennett's Expedient Survival Tin
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Registered: 10/11/05
Posts: 105
Loc: Afghanistan
Ok, I double checked the TSA site and these are the rules dated as of 12-1-2005

Lighters *; CARRY ON-No *, CHECKED-No *
Strike-anywhere Matches **; CARRY ON-No **, CHECKED-No **

*All lighters are prohibited as carry-on items. Lighters without fuel are permitted in checked baggage. Lighters with fuel are prohibited in checked baggage, unless they adhere to the DOT exemption, which allows up to two fueled lighters if properly enclosed in a DOT approved case. If you are uncertain as to whether your lighter is prohibited, please refrain from bringing it to the airport.

** Up to 4 books of safety (non-strike anywhere) matches are permitted as carry-on items, but all matches are prohibited in checked baggage


What is funny is you can carry on 4 books of safety matches but not check them. Hopes this helps clear things up.
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#67851 - 06/22/06 06:09 PM Re: Bennett's Expedient Survival Tin
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Loc: Collegeville, PA, USA
I can't read that thing anymore. It makes my head hurt. <img src="/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

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#67852 - 06/22/06 06:21 PM Re: Bennett's Expedient Survival Tin
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Registered: 11/13/01
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Loc: Collegeville, PA, USA
The TSA must have killed Zippo's business dead, then.

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#67853 - 06/22/06 06:58 PM Re: Bennett's Expedient Survival Tin
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Registered: 10/11/05
Posts: 105
Loc: Afghanistan
Technically the Spark Lighter and Tinder from the Ritter kit could be considered a lighter without fuel, OK in checked baggage but not carry on. Trust me, the folks who work screening for the TSA are not the sharpest spoons in the drawer, and it is not worth arguing the point with them. However, my kit passes muster for checked baggage.

A personal survival kit specifically designed to be TSA/airline friendly for carry on would make a great subject for a new thread. You could at least have safety matches in it.
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#67854 - 06/22/06 07:20 PM Re: Bennett's Expedient Survival Tin
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Registered: 11/13/01
Posts: 1784
Loc: Collegeville, PA, USA
That would be a Best Guess Only survival kit.

The TSA won't override individual airline's decisions, thus we have the same merry-go-round, without the "merry" part, we did before 9/11.

We could still, however, throw in a very simple first aid kit and a Doug Ritter Special Edition Photon Freedom.

We're supposedly allowed blunt-tip scissors, but who knows? It's still a crap-shoot.

My own kit would include a tub of Valium. Don't like planes. Never did. Still don't. And being strapped into one, with perhaps a screaming baby right next to me? THAT's what the Valium is for. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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