If it was an ISP forcing the shut down, I think if it were me, I'd say something like, "Due to forces beyond my control, I'm shutting down this thread and I can't discuss it further than that"

Then again, I don't know all the details surrounding the situation.

The only problem with a self defense class, that only meets once, or maybe for a short amount of time is that people will forget what they learn. It is a rare case that they will practice the techniques on a regular basis after the class. Of course any knowledge and experience in this area is better than none (unless you know just enough to get yourself into trouble) but to truly be effective, one must be able to respond without thinking. As Bruce Lee said, holding his fist up, "I don't hit...it hits all by itself".

Still, in Korea, tae kwon do is part of the school curriculum, like P.E. is in the States. I think it would be a good thing if US schools adopted a similar curriculum.

To quote the immortal words of Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along?"

You can follow the teachings of Allah, or Buddha or God or Isis or nobody at all. I will do what is right for me, and if my religion bumps your religion's elbow, I'll humbly say, "Excuse me please" and go on my way in peace. I won't judge you and I hope you won't judge me. Maybe our kids can go over to each other's houses to play together. They while they are doing that, we can sit down with some coffee or tea and discuss how we all want to be happy, and maybe what that means to us. We might see that we have more in common than we think. And the things we don't have in common? There's no need for us to fight about it. Just remember that we all have the right to live and be happy and enjoy watching our children grow and learn. And if we do our jobs raising those children, as best as we can, then maybe by the time my grandchildren are playing with your grandchildren, they'll come sit on our laps and ask, "What was war like?"

the guys in the plane were just servants it was their PTB that made the plan. Any way here's a thread I started about exactly the same thing

If everyone had that attitude we wouldn't be in this situation in the first place! My personal experience of many, although I am relieved to say not all, religious people is that they are far less tolerant and willing to forgive than most none religious people. Probley something to do with the "God loves me because I follow His One True Way" syndrome. I wont tell you what I think about that or what, if given the chance, I would do about it....

I think that you had better reread that mate. This bozo is very serious. He failed only because Allah did not wish to see the taking of innocent life. Had Allah decreed otherwise, he would have succeeded. And no, I would not execute him.

Yeah, OK... good luck with that one... most schools don't even do ROTC any more, and you want them to teach hand to hand... good idea, but like I said... good luck with it <img src="/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

Troy

NOT kill him??? It's more like time to "kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out". Sorry if this offends, but touchy-feely psycho-babble isn't going to cover this... Draconian measures are called for, and if you're not willing to help fix the problem, then stay out of the way.

Troy

PS Sorry for the rant, but there's just too much crap rolling in these days, and it appears that NOBODY wants to do ANYTHING about it <img src="/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />