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#63466 - 04/09/06 04:25 PM Re: More on Firearms; a City Bug-Out Scenario.
Chris Kavanaugh Offline
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Registered: 02/09/01
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Yes you can. It's much more effective than the photo of a WW2 french resistance 38 revolver with expedient ammunition. The user secured a quantity of german 9MM Parabellum and peened the rims with a punch to catch the extractor <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

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#63467 - 04/09/06 07:04 PM Re: More on Firearms; a City Bug-Out Scenario.
frenchy Offline
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Registered: 12/18/02
Posts: 1320
Loc: France
well... I'm not sure ... but maybe that's what's called the "g?nie fran?ais" ...!!! <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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#63468 - 04/10/06 12:17 AM Re: More on Firearms; a City Bug-Out Scenario.
harrkev Offline
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Registered: 09/05/01
Posts: 384
Loc: Colorado Springs, CO
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My personal choices are a 38/357 revolver

I have heard that the noise from these are quite bad when not wearing muffs/plugs. I have not yet had the cajones to take my muffs off at the range, so I have no first-hand experience. However, I tend to believe that not being deaf after shooting would be an advantage. A .45 should be quieter.

As for me, I would take the XD-9mm pistol for defense, and my M-6 rifle for food. But then again, this is what I happen to have right now. I am not sure I would want to hump my Yugoslavian SKS around.
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#63469 - 04/10/06 01:37 AM Re: More on Firearms; a City Bug-Out Scenario.
ironraven Offline
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Registered: 09/08/05
Posts: 4642
Loc: Vermont
Not bad. Louder than a 22, but it's not like a 50 cal. Your ears WILL ring for a bit, which isn't a good thing we now know, so keep the plugs in while on the range after you run a cylinder without just to get an idea how loud they are.

If you ever need to use it defensively, you might not even hear it. Adrenaline does funny things to the ears.
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#63470 - 04/10/06 05:18 PM Re: More on Firearms; a City Bug-Out Scenario.
Craig_phx Offline
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Registered: 04/05/05
Posts: 715
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
I would not abandon my vehicle just because I am in gridlock. We have gridlock getting out of Phoenix every Friday afternoon. It would be nice if you had extra gas with you.

I keep a Glock 27 with +1 magazines in my car at all times. I have a holster pop-riveted to the center console. I can have the Glock in my hand as fast as any on-body draw.

If I was worried I would also take my modified Ruger Mini-30 with several magazines. It has a 1-4x scope, pistol grip stock, and target barrel. I'll dump it for a Kel-Tec as soon as they sell a 6.8 SPC carbine.
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#63471 - 04/10/06 07:08 PM Re: More on Firearms; a City Bug-Out Scenario.
Malpaso Offline
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Registered: 09/12/05
Posts: 817
Loc: MA
I'd have multiple long and hand guns in the same caliber, e.g., ..45CAP, 44mag, .357mag. The group you are with can share ammo and swap arms without confusion.
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#63472 - 04/11/06 03:35 AM Re: More on Firearms; a City Bug-Out Scenario.
ki4buc Offline
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Registered: 11/10/03
Posts: 710
Loc: Augusta, GA
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So let's take this scenario a step further. You and your partner have left your car and you are loaded with emergency preparedness equipment in an unfamiliar urban area that turns out to be, "not the best side of town". There are thousand of people trying to get places, in vehicles, on bikes and by foot. How do you proceed on foot through an area where there may be potential looting and/or theft? Do you travel back streets and alleys or stick to the main streets? What would you do to fit in or to become a chameleon?


Me, I'd try to look homeless and crazy. i.e. no money, and nothing of value. Play the part. Keep repeating a phrase, like "Box 3436. I must get there soon!" If someone tries talking to you, just unload (not the weapon!) "I must get the Rubix cube into Post Office box 3436, the world depends on it! I have been sent by the great Roknard, and he has communicated to me the importance of this mission, and has infected me with a contagious disease to ensure that all those who interfere will die a horrible death. Rocknard said that this disease would infect only those who wish to do me harm. If you leave now, you will be safe. Do not let the Curse of Roknard be your undoing". If they still seem interested, uh, maybe they're mentally ill, and you're going to want to move away, and prepare to defend yourself.

This is what I try, you're mileage may vary, and only attempt this if you are properly trained. I have no clue whether it would be successful.

The unfortunate reality is that homeless people, and especially homeless with mental illness are ignored by society. I would expect that they would be ignored in a disaster, no matter the neighborhood. The only problem you would have would be racism. Someone else will have to figure out how the handle that, I don't have a clue.


Edited by ki4buc (04/11/06 03:39 AM)

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#63473 - 04/11/06 05:51 PM Re: More on Firearms; a City Bug-Out Scenario.
harrkev Offline
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Registered: 09/05/01
Posts: 384
Loc: Colorado Springs, CO
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"I must get the Rubix cube into Post Office box 3436, the world depends on it! I have been sent by the great Roknard, and he has communicated to me the importance of this mission, and has infected me with a contagious disease to ensure that all those who interfere will die a horrible death. Rocknard said that this disease would infect only those who wish to do me harm. If you leave now, you will be safe. Do not let the Curse of Roknard be your undoing"

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and only attempt this if you are properly trained.

I am quite afraid to find out where you get this type of training... <img src="/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />
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#63474 - 04/11/06 06:24 PM Re: More on Firearms; a City Bug-Out Scenario.
ki4buc Offline
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Registered: 11/10/03
Posts: 710
Loc: Augusta, GA
Where else? Hollywood!

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#63475 - 04/11/06 10:13 PM Re: More on Firearms; a City Bug-Out Scenario.
Anonymous
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...........and you could put your BOB in a garbage bag and that in shopping cart....

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