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#57018 - 01/03/06 10:18 PM Re: Snack type food for EDC?!
Omega Offline
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Registered: 11/10/03
Posts: 77
I have small box in my briefcase where I have 2 breakfast bars. I do not eat at home, therefore, when I have to get to a meeting somewhere, I miss the breakfast (or lunch). This is the time when these bars come very handy.
Actually, I like have them so much that I take them with me for travels abroad. Last time I was in Norway. When we came out from the plane, we had to take the bus very quickly that we did not have any time to buy food or exchange money. The bars were my savers - my wife sinked her teeth into them instead of my arm. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
So, 500 ml bottle of water and 2 breakfast bars is my everyday carry food when I go to the office (and I have lots of oat meals there in my desk for breakfast). <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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#57019 - 01/04/06 01:21 AM Re: Snack type food for EDC?!
urbansurvivalist Offline
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Registered: 11/27/05
Posts: 127
Loc: Asheville, NC
The problem with candy bars is that they are very high in sugar. Although that will give you energy in the short run, high sugar foods cause an insulin spike which actually lowers blood sugar levels and makes you feel more tired afterwards. You want as much complex carbohydrates as possible, which will give you sustained energy, and moderate amount of fat, which is filling and an essential nutrient limited in nature (For purely survival situations, you'd probably want more fat).

Most candy bars(and many other processed foods) also have partially hydrogenated oil, which is very unhealthy and really should be banned, but I guess that's a bit off topic.

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#57020 - 01/04/06 01:47 AM Re: Snack type food for EDC?!
Arney Offline
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Registered: 09/15/05
Posts: 2485
Loc: California
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...Most candy bars(and many other processed foods) also have partially hydrogenated oil, which is very unhealthy...


I just saw a segment on the news last night about the effect that the new regulation requiring the display of trans fat content on food products is having. I can't remember if the regulation kicks in now or is still down the road. Anyway, seems that the trans fat content of many foods has gone down since food manufacturers have known that they'll have to display this info on their products.

So, yes, Junior, go ahead and gorge yourself on those cookies. They're good for you now! <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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#57021 - 01/04/06 02:18 PM Re: Snack type food for EDC?!
urbansurvivalist Offline
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Registered: 11/27/05
Posts: 127
Loc: Asheville, NC
Yeah, as of 2006, the FDA now requires trans fats to be labled. Unfortunately many manufacturers still lie about it, by manipulating serving sizes so that there is less than .5 grams of trans fat per serving, so that they can legally say it has 0 grams per serving. Always read ingredient labels, and if it says hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated oil, then it has trans fat, regardless of what the nutrition label says.

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#57022 - 01/04/06 03:05 PM Re: Snack type food for EDC?!
jshannon Offline
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Registered: 02/02/03
Posts: 647
Loc: North Texas
I think the sugar spike thing is really a bunch of marketing hype even though it has merit in competition sports.

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#57023 - 01/04/06 03:31 PM Re: Snack type food for EDC?!
urbansurvivalist Offline
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Registered: 11/27/05
Posts: 127
Loc: Asheville, NC
Marketing by who? The only sugar related marketing I've seen is that ridiculous low carb BS. Almost everything else still has massive amounts of sugar. Complex carbs are really the best fuel for your body in any situation.

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#57024 - 01/05/06 02:25 PM Re: Snack type food for EDC?!
Omega Offline
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Registered: 11/10/03
Posts: 77
I was reading a survival book yesterday. It says that you do not need a lot of water to digest food with sugar. So, there is an advantage, not speaking about good reserve of calories. But if you are really bothered about calories you can alway eat less.

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#57025 - 01/05/06 05:47 PM Re: Snack type food for EDC?!
benjammin Offline
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Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 4020
Loc: Anchorage AK
Actually, in a survival situation, I believe fats and proteins to be far superior to any carb consumption of equal measure. They pack more energy per given weight, allow the metabolism to regulate easier, do not require as much metabolic conversion prior to cellular utilization, are absorptively self regulating, and more efficiently support aerobic activity, which is what you are more likely to experience in a chronic survival episode (as opposed to running for your life, where the carbs would be preferable).

Since the focus of this thread appears to be away from meat based snacks, it seems that the most appropriate food blend would favor a greater amount of nuts and legumes, with high protein content grains included, and sugars used really only as a flavoring, not as a substantial source of energy. Candy bars with a large amount of nut content (like Paydays, as previously cited) are decent. Another really great snack in this gendre are sesame snaps, which pack quite a wallup of calories balanced in fats, proteins and carbs for their relatively small size (I believe 300+ calories in 3 ounces). I've posted links to sources for these snack items in the past.

Complex carbs are a good fuel source for your body in a controlled environment, where restricted caloric assimilation and nutrient balance is of greater concern. When I am trying to stay warm and functional in a cold, relatively inhospitable environment, I am going to be looking for a much higher, more concentrated, more efficient, and longer lasting energy source than what is practical to pack in a complex carbohydrate form.

Complex carbohydrates would be almost as undesirable as packets of table sugar in my BOB.
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#57026 - 01/05/06 05:55 PM Re: Snack type food for EDC?!
Malpaso Offline
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Registered: 09/12/05
Posts: 817
Loc: MA
The problem that I've seen with the Trans Fat issue is that with products I've looked at, they've replaced the Trans Fats with higher Saturated Fats, so the fat content is worse.
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#57027 - 01/05/06 06:01 PM Re: Snack type food for EDC?!
benjammin Offline
Rapscallion
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 4020
Loc: Anchorage AK
Yup, there's just no getting around the marketability of the pallette prefence. We've been engineered to prefer those nasty saturated fats and those sugary sweets, so it is a constant effort slapping that Twinkie out of junior's hand before he stuffs it down the cake hole.
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