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#541 - 04/22/01 04:14 PM Scrape or Strike
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When makeing a fire with flint ( actual flint ) should you strike or scrape the flint with steel? I know how to use the Magnesium and Flint ( ferocerium ) bars. I am asking about actual flint like you would find on the ground. I know someone out there knows the answer. Thanks<br><br>Ranger.<br>The older I get, The better I was.

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#542 - 04/22/01 04:45 PM Re: Scrape or Strike
Chris Kavanaugh Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 02/09/01
Posts: 3824
Using natural flints requires carbon steel with a rockwell of 60.The actuall striking of steel and flint is a sharp striking scrape.Confused?Just take a look at the action of a flintlock.The blackpowder re enactors use tinder kits that have forged strikers and flints.Dixie Gunworks and my Puukko dealer (www.ragweedforge.com) both have sets.Ragweed has a full discusion of firemaking with flint.We don't have true flint in the US,it is a European stone.We have agates,cherts,obsidian etc.A recent wilderness way issue(www.wwmag.com) has an article of suitable minerals.<br><br>

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#543 - 04/22/01 06:03 PM Re: Scrape or Strike
Chris Kavanaugh Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 02/09/01
Posts: 3824
Further notes:You need a carbon knife,because the carbon is the actual combustable producing the spark.Are you new to knapping?You need your flintstone and a Hammer(a hard round cobble).Grind a rough face onto your flint.This is your striking surface.Next strike a sharp blow with the hammer.This will produce flakes with the neccessary edge.If glass is available just smash it and you have a flint.this stuff is SHARP! I excavated a Pliestocene Bison kill in Wyoming. In Removing the 7000year old projectile I slit my hand open.With a single molecule edge my wound healed in half the time.Would that Cold Steel could perform as well!!!! <br><br>

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#544 - 04/23/01 02:21 PM Ranger, you have it backwards
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You asked how to strike the flint with the steel. Actually you will want to do that the other way around: strike the steel with the flint. This is the opposite of how man-made "flint" (ferrocerium) works. That makes it confusing. <br><br>It may help to think about what you are trying to accomplish at the microscopic level: your flint will shave or scrape away a tiny bit of the steel. That tiny bit of steel will be heated by the friction of being torn away from the rest of the steel. The heated bit of steel will be so hot as to be molten and can ignite good tinder that it lands on (especially your pants).<br><br>Good luck!<br><br>

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