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#48871 - 09/14/05 05:14 PM Re: Stove Fuel
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I bought a set of the alcohol stoves from Major Surplus too. With a full load of fuel I couldn't get any of them to bring 2 cups of water to a boil using the pans in the mess kit. YMMV
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#48872 - 09/14/05 05:35 PM Re: Stove Fuel
Duke Offline
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Registered: 09/13/05
Posts: 53
Loc: Harlan KY
Thanks for all the good advice. I'll grab some Trioxane to have on hand. I didn't know it might be outlawed, either, so that was good to be aware of.

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#48873 - 09/14/05 05:57 PM Re: Stove Fuel
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Registered: 09/12/05
Posts: 817
Loc: MA
Is there some basis for the "triox will be banned" idea, or is this just speculation?
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#48874 - 09/14/05 06:16 PM Re: Stove Fuel
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Registered: 08/28/04
Posts: 831
Loc: Maple Grove, MN
I've heard that triox is somewhat toxic. Not sure how toxic though, and haven't heard it from a reliable source.
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#48875 - 09/14/05 06:23 PM Re: Stove Fuel
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Registered: 12/10/01
Posts: 1272
Loc: Upper Mississippi River Valley...
IIRC, the London tube bombers made their (unstable) explosives with trioxane, hydrogen peroxide, etc.

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#48876 - 09/14/05 06:30 PM Re: Stove Fuel
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Registered: 12/10/01
Posts: 1272
Loc: Upper Mississippi River Valley...
Here's an interesting tidbit: http://hikinghq.net/stoves/esbit.html

As I wrote previously, I suspect that an Esbit stove puts the pot too close to the trioxane fuel tab.

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#48877 - 09/14/05 06:48 PM Re: Stove Fuel
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Registered: 04/07/03
Posts: 213
Loc: Northeast Arkansas (Central Ar...
what did you use for fuel?

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#48878 - 09/14/05 06:50 PM Re: Stove Fuel
Anonymous
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I used denatured alcohol.
gino

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#48879 - 09/14/05 07:07 PM Re: Stove Fuel
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Rather than an outright ban on trioxane, It just has to be considered hazardous material. If the shipping restrictions are upheld, the triox will be priced out of the market. Are you willing to order triox & pay a $20 hazmat fee?
This is info from the Firequest site:
"The Department of Transportation (DOT) requires a $20.00 handling charge for each package containing Hazardous Materials. Hazardous Materials cannot be mixed, therefore if you order two DIFFERENT items marked with Hazardous Material Shipping, they will be shipped in two separate packages with a $20.00 Hazardous Material handling charge for each."

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#48880 - 09/15/05 04:42 PM Re: Stove Fuel
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Registered: 02/27/05
Posts: 232
Loc: Wild Wonderful WV
If you are using the denatured alcohol like from a paint dept. in Lowe?s or Home Depot you should not have any trouble boiling a whole pot of water. (I understood you to say you were using the Swedish Army surplus stove) I have several of them and they cook like crazy for me. Even the ones I make out of Coke cans will easily boil water. I made one out of a steel can about twice the size of a tuna can that boiled a covered pot with over two cups of water in it dry during a test. <img src="/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />
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