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#44444 - 07/21/05 04:33 PM Bomb threats and evacuations
Eugene Offline
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Registered: 12/26/02
Posts: 2855
I'm sure many have heard the news by now that there were more London bonbings. I work for a large global company who lost a couple employees to the last one so we had an evacuation drill a bit ago. Our Evacuation plans all say to meet in the parking lots so everyone did that then a few went under the garages (two level detached from the buildings) to escape the head. Well the security gaurds drove around and yelled at everyone to get out of the garages and stand on top of them in case the cars were to have a bomb in them. So of course one guy asks what good that would do since we would be standing right next to the cars on top of the garages which could have a bomb in them, or if a car explodes in the garage we would get hurt falling on top of it. Security gaurds didn't like that very much, but it goes to show how the people in charge haven't always thought of everything and don't always communicate what they want very well which is why you should make plans for yourself.
If it were a real emergency (i.e. I smelled smoke, heard a blast or thought my life were endangered in any way) I would have thrown a chair through the window and rapelled down the 4 floors via cat 5 cable <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

#44445 - 07/21/05 06:37 PM Re: Bomb threats and evacuations
Stu Offline
I am not a P.P.o.W.
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Registered: 05/16/05
Posts: 1058
Loc: Finger Lakes of NY State
Have a PSK with you at work?
Our most important survival tool is our brain, and for many, that tool is way underused! SBRaider
Head Cat Herder

#44446 - 07/21/05 08:22 PM Re: Bomb threats and evacuations
SheepDog Offline

Registered: 02/27/05
Posts: 232
Loc: Wild Wonderful WV
With the way the terrorist have been operating as of late I donít think I would like to stand in a big group waiting for the management to decide what to do! That seems like an awful convenient secondary target to me. More than once the terrorist have sent in a second attack to hit after the rescue personnel are on scene working or to hit the crowd of on lookers.
When the wolf attacks he will find that some who run with the flock are not sheep!

#44447 - 07/21/05 08:31 PM Re: Bomb threats and evacuations

I would have thrown a chair through the window and rapelled down the 4 floors via cat 5 cable

Cat 5 has 8 conductors. Does that make it better than 7-strand 550?

#44448 - 07/21/05 08:55 PM Re: Bomb threats and evacuations
wolf Offline

Registered: 12/01/04
Posts: 329
Loc: Michigan
NYC is responding like this:

"New York Police to Search Bags
New York City will begin tomorrow morning randomly checking bags at subway stations, commuter railways and on buses, officials announced today"

From NY Times
"2+2=4 is not life, but the beginning of death." Dostoyevsky

Bona Na Croin

#44449 - 07/21/05 09:04 PM Re: Bomb threats and evacuations
7k7k99 Offline

Registered: 06/01/05
Posts: 375
Loc: Ohio
I agree, but that wouldn't occur to your basic corporate type manager, they want everybody together in one big group, they can't get that "team concept idea" out of their minds -- so we will be a big, tempting terrorist target, inside or outside.

#44450 - 07/21/05 09:06 PM Re: Bomb threats and evacuations
brian Offline

Registered: 07/28/04
Posts: 1468
Loc: Texas
Just when I thought I had come up with every possible use for CAT5E
Learn to improvise everything.

#44451 - 07/21/05 09:14 PM Re: Bomb threats and evacuations
JohnN Offline
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Registered: 10/10/01
Posts: 966
Loc: Seattle, WA

I assume the cat5 comment was a joke. Cat5 isn't very strong. I certainly wouldn't suggest this. If you consider you need to escape in that maner, I suggest you get a real escape kit.


#44452 - 07/21/05 09:15 PM Re: Bomb threats and evacuations

Registered: 11/26/01
Posts: 81
One should not stand near,planters,mailboxes,dumpsters etc.For a secondary device to kill, mame the arriving rescuers or the folks who evacuated the building is sop for terrorists.

I would stay clear all parked vehicals as well.

#44453 - 07/21/05 09:24 PM Re: Bomb threats and evacuations
hillbilly Offline

Registered: 04/07/03
Posts: 213
Loc: Northeast Arkansas (Central Ar...
couple of points
1. Experts agree that going to a specific area that cannot be guarded from snipers/preset bombs is not good.
2. Company should not have evacuation plan broadcast i.e. on web, well out in open, etc. to help plan bombings.
3. Find out as much as you can about specific plans.

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