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#40779 - 05/15/05 11:51 PM Montréal's subway as a perfect target
Frankie Offline
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Registered: 09/19/03
Posts: 736
Loc: Montréal, Québec, Canada
According to the SCRS (Canadian Security Intelligence Service) Montréal's subway would be a perfect target for a terrorist attack. Actually they know that there's an Al-Qaeda branch developing something via internet forums and paintball yards. And the question is not if it will happen or not but rather where and when!

Since I take Montréal's subway almost everyday, I'm questioning myself about how I can prepare for it. Should I sit in the first carriage or the last of the train for a better evacuation? I'm also reading the emergency procedures panel and imagining mentally and emotionally proceeding to the opening of the doors... etc. In terms of equippment I only have a LED light and mini Fox40 whistle on my key chain and a handkerchief. In my wallet I got some adhesive bandages but those are there especially for avoiding to stain my clothes when having minor cuts obviously... (I'm not going to carry a gas mask and a hard hat and big multi-tool.)

http://www.canada.com/montreal/montrealg...0e-f6549741bcfb

Frankie

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#40780 - 05/16/05 04:08 AM Re: Montr?al's subway as a perfect target
bountyhunter Offline


Registered: 11/14/03
Posts: 1224
Loc: Milwaukee, WI USA
Frankie:

Your post seems to be factual and genuine in its concern for users of a potential terrorist target.

What concerns me about this type of post is that it will give ideas to unbalanced publicity seeking malcontents who may not get this information otherwise.

I know that determined people will get as much information as they want, but I worry about sociopaths who are more numerous than political terrorists who might pick up the idea because the post leads them to a known easy target.

I was very impressed in a discussion about nitroglycerin that those people who knew how to make it didn't even list the ingredients necessary. They realize that even on a forum like this that does not generally draw malcontents (Frenchy, keep it zipped. <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />) there exists the potential for damage to the public good either through an accident or by intent.

Love your family and fellow man and relax as you are safer than if you were in an automobile.

Bountyhunter

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#40781 - 05/16/05 06:12 AM Re: Montréal's subway as a perfect target
Milestand Offline
Member

Registered: 09/29/02
Posts: 124
Quote:
"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."

- Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965

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#40782 - 05/16/05 02:04 PM Re: Montréal's subway as a perfect target
norad45 Offline
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Registered: 07/01/04
Posts: 1506
Frankie, don't worry about your post somehow inspiring terrorists, psychos, or malcontents. I think you are smart to prepare for this sort of threat, and this is a perfect forum to post your questions.

In addition to your whistle, light, and handkerchief, I would seriously suggest a blade of some sort (if legal.) A multi-tool would be a good idea IMO; maybe a smaller one like the Leatherman Juice that can be discreetly carried in your pocket would work for you. I'm not a big believer in carrying bandaids and the like, but I see some merit in some sort of trauma pad if practicable. About 20' of 550# paracord (maybe used as shoelaces?) could come in handy.

I'm not familiar with Montreal's subway system, so obviously I can't advise you about evacuation. But you are already light years ahead of most people if you mark the exits and take the time to read the posted instructions.

Good luck. It seems we are truly all in this together.

Regards, Vince


Edited by norad45 (05/16/05 02:13 PM)

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#40783 - 05/16/05 03:07 PM Re: Montréal's subway as a perfect target
frenchy Offline
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Registered: 12/18/02
Posts: 1320
Loc: France
Any thought of any kind of "accident" in the subway, would urge me to reinforce the bright side of my EDC : more light power (SF 6P), more LED lights (i.e. Inova T1, Nuwaï QIII, head lamp and the like...) and more batteries...

If you are not in the targeted car, you may have to walk or help people walk inside very dark tunnels ....
And as much as I like Photon micro-lights, I would prefer some other larger models on hands.
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#40784 - 05/16/05 04:06 PM Re: Montréal's subway as a perfect target
brian Offline
Veteran

Registered: 07/28/04
Posts: 1468
Loc: Texas
If blades are illegal then at the very least a SOG PowerLock may be the way to go because its a user-configurable heavy duty multi tool. You can remove the blades and replace them with any number of other tools that would be useful and legal to have with you.
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#40785 - 05/16/05 04:41 PM Re: Montréal's subway --SOG Powerlock
norad45 Offline
Veteran

Registered: 07/01/04
Posts: 1506
I might look at something like that for myself if there were a smaller version. With the addition to my EDC of the RSK I am not that dependant upon multitool blades anymore. I am retiring my Wave in favor of a KF4 Juice for pocket carry. The RSK and Juice together only weigh about what the Wave did all by itself and increase my options to boot. No scissors on the Juice though--but I never used them that much anyway.

Regards, Vince

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#40786 - 05/16/05 05:35 PM Re: Montréal's subway as a perfect target
AyersTG Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/10/01
Posts: 1272
Loc: Upper Mississippi River Valley...
Dust protection, maybe. Good brand N95 (with valve works better) and some eye protection. I have NOT tried this, but I wonder if swimming goggles would be a good compromise between protection and compactness?

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#40787 - 05/16/05 06:11 PM Re: Montréal's subway as a perfect target
Chris Kavanaugh Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 02/09/01
Posts: 3824
Swimming goggles seal best in a wet environment. They may work, but I'd invest in a dedicated unit.

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#40788 - 05/17/05 12:06 AM Re: Montr?al's subway as a perfect target
Milestand Offline
Member

Registered: 09/29/02
Posts: 124
Okay - problem solved!

All you need is an Exosuit with 48 man hours of life support...

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