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#37617 - 02/16/05 03:44 PM U.S. to ban flame sources aboard airliners
Craig Offline


Registered: 11/13/01
Posts: 1784
Loc: Collegeville, PA, USA

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#37618 - 02/16/05 06:17 PM Re: U.S. to ban flame sources aboard airliners
groo Offline


Registered: 11/02/03
Posts: 722
Loc: Florida
Slightly different angle here (cnn.com).

What I thought was interesting about the cnn article is that TSA seems to be worried this
particular ruling is dumb enough that even the PHRASECENSOREDPOSTERSHOULDKNOWBETTER. will think it goes too far.


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#37619 - 02/16/05 07:52 PM Re: U.S. to ban flame sources aboard airliners
garrett Offline
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Registered: 03/07/03
Posts: 249
Loc: North Carolina
You know, I had a long reply for this, but I am just going to wait and see what happens. This is just the beginning of the end for anyone who flies frequently. Watch, soon wont be allowed to carry anything on!

Garrett
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#37620 - 02/16/05 08:12 PM Re: U.S. to ban flame sources aboard airliners
frenchy Offline
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Registered: 12/18/02
Posts: 1320
Loc: France
Didn't someone on this forum suggest to have the passengers naked for boarding and then to strap them to their seat ... ???
(and without any luggage... of course)
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#37621 - 02/16/05 09:26 PM Re: U.S. to ban flame sources aboard airliners
MartinFocazio Offline

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Registered: 01/21/03
Posts: 2148
Loc: Bucks County PA
I'm often unsure of what the solution is to in-air terrorism. Clearly, taking over the cockpit of a passenger plane is not feasible, even if a large number of people on board tried. But if you wanted just plain terror, what is worse than being burned to death at 35,000 feet? I've seen the hairspray demo (something I used to do as a kid) and I also know that the interior of a plane is very, very flammable.

Certainy, theres more in-air danger from a lighter than there is from a knife. However, I'm not sure if it's even possible to prevent fire-making devices from coming on board. A lithium battery and headphone wire can make quite a bang, as can a flash from a camera.

The answer, which the TSA refuses to implement, is passenger profiling. I'm no threat, yet I'm treated as one. I suffer economic harm and and inconvinenced because I'm treated the same as a guy who has a Syrian passport, has been to Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan in the last 6 weeks and is a cousin of a suicide bomber from Isreal.

that's just dumb.


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#37622 - 02/16/05 10:11 PM Re: U.S. to ban flame sources aboard airliners
bountyhunter Offline


Registered: 11/14/03
Posts: 1224
Loc: Milwaukee, WI USA
Frenchy:

I don't remember that one, but I did post that the TSA may institute the dreaded "E.F.E." procedure and then the excrement will really hit the ocsillating blade.

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#37623 - 02/16/05 10:16 PM Re: U.S. to ban flame sources aboard airliners
frenchy Offline
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Registered: 12/18/02
Posts: 1320
Loc: France
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O.K, I have to bite and ask (even if I fear the worst...) :
just what is that procedure ?
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#37624 - 02/16/05 10:24 PM Re: U.S. to ban flame sources aboard airliners
bountyhunter Offline


Registered: 11/14/03
Posts: 1224
Loc: Milwaukee, WI USA
Frenchy:

Good Grief!, you're French, think about it and if someone else with knowledge of supposedly secret government workings knows the answer, I'll let them tell you. If no one else knows (Don't expect Norad45 to chime in as he probably doesn't believe our Government would implement the E.F.E. procedure on its citizens.), I'll tell you tomorrow. If I don't sign on tomorrow, the Government has been monitoring me and I am history.

Bountyhunter

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#37625 - 02/16/05 10:27 PM Re: U.S. to ban flame sources aboard airliners
frenchy Offline
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Registered: 12/18/02
Posts: 1320
Loc: France
O.K, I'll wait ...
and if I don't sign on tomorrow, don't worry : it's just because I will be working at a customer site for the next two days, far away from home.


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#37626 - 02/17/05 12:27 AM Re: U.S. to ban flame sources aboard airliners
Bugman37 Offline
journeyman

Registered: 08/03/04
Posts: 66
Another government agency run amoke! Next thing you know you won't be able to bring dental floss onboard.....hey I could strangle you with enough of it!!!!

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