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#35492 - 12/21/04 12:57 AM Re: Being winter is upon us.....
Frankie Offline
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Registered: 09/19/03
Posts: 736
Loc: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Another essential is a blaze orange flag to tie to your antenna.

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#35493 - 12/21/04 01:30 AM Re: Being winter is upon us.....
UTAlumnus Offline
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Registered: 03/08/03
Posts: 1019
Loc: East Tennessee near Bristol
Added for winter: Thinsulate boots, sleeping bag, ski bibs, jacket shell & liner, winter socks, & gloves. Everything except the sleeping bag are my normal field gear if necessary for work. About the coldest I've been was January in West Virginia when it started to rain.

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#35494 - 12/21/04 01:55 AM Re: Being winter is upon us.....
Anonymous
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The "Movable wicks" in survival/24 hr/48 hr candles are nothing more than short bits of COTTON pipe cleaner {synthetic cleaners just melt} bent into shape then dipped in molten wax, I've made hundreds of them myself. A neat idea I wish I'd have been the first to think of and market, somebody's made a killing on those things.

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#35495 - 12/21/04 02:13 AM Re: Being winter is upon us.....
Susan Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
For the TP Heater: is there some reason denatured alcohol isn't used? The water in rubbing alcohol would seem counter-productive.

Sue

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#35496 - 12/21/04 04:28 AM Re: Being winter is upon us.....
Be_Prepared Offline
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Registered: 12/07/04
Posts: 530
Loc: Massachusetts
I pretty much keep a "72 hour" kit in my car all the time. There are a couple prior topics that get into lists for that kind of kit pretty well. That means I have signalling, firemaking, flashlights, water, rain/wind gear, 3 days of food rations, FAK, basic gear like sharps, paracord, space blankets, repair stuff, etc. in a day pack all the time.

In the winter, I just add enough fleece or wool pullovers and pants for my family in a duffle bag with some old gloves and hats that we would never wear in public, <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> but, would keep us warm in an emergency. I always have some boots and a parka in the trunk. In that duffle bag I throw a bunch of handwarmers and a couple of those small firestarter logs, (there is firemaking gear in the 72 hour pack, but, I think being able to light one of those little firestarters up might be a real emotional lift for my wife and son if we broke down on some isolated road when we're driving up to a ski place in Maine or New Hampshire).

I think I have enough fleece and wool stuff in there to keep warm, but, maybe a couple wool army blankets wouldn't be a bad addition as was mentioned before.

For communication, I always have a cell phone, but, I also keep a handheld FM amateur radio and a repeater directory in the car. There are plenty of places that the cell phone is dead, but, you can usually find a repeater that you can hit on 2M or 70CM. (Just in case)
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#35497 - 12/21/04 03:24 PM Re: Being winter is upon us.....
norad45 Offline
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Registered: 07/01/04
Posts: 1506
I'm surprised no one has mentioned hand tools. I keep a small tool box with the most common size wrenches and sockets, along with screwdrivers, pliars, and wirecutters. It saved my bacon a few years back. I broke the alternator belt on my Bronco II while deer hunting. Fortunately I noticed that the AC belt was the same belt, and I was able to swap it out in about an hour. Without the tools it would have been a long walk out.

I include bailing wire for impromptu exhaust repairs as well as a cheap tire plug kit from Wal-mart. Some wire connectors and electrical tape are in there too. With this stuff I am pretty much equipped to fix anything up to my level of mechanical expertise (which admittedly is not that high!)

Come to think of it, I'd better buy a spare serpentine belt for my Dodge truck today.

Regards, Vince

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#35498 - 12/21/04 03:50 PM soda can stove
Anonymous
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Just a guess, but I think dehatured EtOH is more combustable or fast burning. Just a guess.

Speaking of denatured EtOH, I always have a soda can stove, water, and my 1 liter titanium pot in my car 3 seasons of the year. I also carry one in my survival kit in the winter when I ice climb or mountaineer.

A buddy of mine tested my soda can at everest base camp ~17,000 ft., and it worked great. I have personally used it effectively up to 14,500 ft.

Burns 10-12min and brings a liter of water to a boil, 170 F at sealevel, starting at RT, in about 8 min. or less. Great item to have. The stove, the fuel (6 ounces or 10 uses), and the pot stand all fit it a stuff sack 3.5" across, 4" high. The big plus is that it only weighs a few ounces without the fuel. I haven't used my MSR "lite-weight" white gas backpacking stove in 3 years- just too dang heavy and hard to light compared to the soda can stove.

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#35499 - 12/21/04 04:03 PM Re: Being winter is upon us.....
paramedicpete Offline
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Registered: 04/09/02
Posts: 1920
Loc: Frederick, Maryland
Denatured alcohol (generally in the painting area of a store) is different from isopropyl alcohol (generally in the pharmacy area), which is commonly diluted with water (70%+). Denatured alcohol generally has acetone or some other “denaturing” agent to make it undrinkable and therefore non-taxable. Denatured alcohol will generally burn cleaner that isopropyl school.

Pete

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#35500 - 12/21/04 05:21 PM Re: Being winter is upon us.....
bountyhunter Offline


Registered: 11/14/03
Posts: 1224
Loc: Milwaukee, WI USA
If denatured alcohol uses acetone, wouldn't that affect the plastic can cover used to seal the toilet paper heater when it is not being used?

Bountyhunter <img src="/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

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#35501 - 12/21/04 05:36 PM Re: Being winter is upon us.....
GoatRider Offline
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Registered: 08/28/04
Posts: 835
Loc: Maple Grove, MN
When I first read the term "TP heater", I thought it was a device that pre-heats the TP prior to use. Didn't really seem like an essential survival item to me.
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